How long after dosing silicates is phophate testing reliable ?

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I have dosed silicates for 4-6 weeks and now only do it randomly. I did 2-3 days ago. I use Hanna ULR phophate to test.

When will testing be reliable ? I’d like to know what my phosphates levels are.

Thanks !
 
I have dosed silicates for 4-6 weeks and now only do it randomly. I did 2-3 days ago. I use Hanna ULR phophate to test.

When will testing be reliable ? I’d like to know what my phosphates levels are.

Thanks !
Does the Hanna Checker instructions warn about silicate interference?
 
Does the Hanna Checker instructions warn about silicate interference?
I don‘t know but I’ve read about and also experienced it. When I was dosing 1,0 ml daily, my test results were off the charts. I don’t remember the number but it was really high.


How much silicate are you adding?
Between 1 and 2 ml. Last time was 2,0 ml.
 
I wish I knew. I’m sure Randy does, I think I learned that from him, besides my own testing.
I dose silica too (on and off). I’d definitely like to learn how dosing would affect my phosphate results.
 
Have you tested your phosphates levels since dosing ?
Not yet. My last phosphate test came out as 0.03ppm though. That was before any silica dosing, although I do have a minor amount of diatoms.
 
Let’s say, for arguments sake, we dosed 1ppm of silica,

How would that effect phosphate results?
Zero difference. (undetectable)
you have to dose a ton of Si to get a tiny positive interference in the PO4 test kit.


This is a combo of data from me and @Rick Mathew
PO4 and Si interference.jpg


Saltwater spiked with different levels of Silica was measured for PO4 with the Hanna ULR P meter.
What is plotted is the difference in the PO4 measured value from its original (zero SiO2) value.
That Rick's (red) and my (blue) data are so closely in agreement given different Si sources etc makes the effect look likely to be real.

Is this a big effect? Not really. Hanna's Low Range Si checker maxes out at 2.00ppm SiO2. I know of no reason why anyone would want more than 2ppm SiO2. There is no evidence of significant interference at or below that range. But it looks like the interference starts around 2ppm SiO2 and becomes significant compared to the uncertainty in the PO4 test by 4ppm SiO2.
 
Zero difference. (undetectable)
you have to dose a ton of Si to get a tiny positive interference in the PO4 test kit.
Thank you very much.
 
My Si is currently sitting at 2ppm and my phosphate is at 0ppb (need to raise it). If it made a difference I sure haven’t noticed.
 
Zero difference. (undetectable)
you have to dose a ton of Si to get a tiny positive interference in the PO4 test kit.
Hmm, that’s weird. I really had a bizarre test. Too bad I don’t remember the numbers.

I’ll test again today and right after my next dose of silicate.
 
Hmm, that’s weird. I really had a bizarre test. Too bad I don’t remember the numbers.

I’ll test again today and right after my next dose of silicate.

What exactly are you dosing? Maybe it has phosphate in it.
 
I did write down my results after all. So with the Hanna ULR Phosphate checker, after dosing liquid sodium silicate 25,7% for a week or so (1-2 ml per day), the results went from 0,08 ppm Phosphates to 0,42 ppm.

I then retested with Salifert and the results were 0 ppm.

Now I’ll test again.
 
I did write down my results after all. So with the Hanna ULR Phosphate checker, after dosing liquid sodium silicate 25,7% for a week or so (1-2 ml per day), the results went from 0,08 ppm Phosphates to 0,42 ppm.

I then retested with Salifert and the results were 0 ppm.

Now I’ll test again.
I’ve heard this before…. When dosing high amounts of silicates (to beat dinos) the Hanna checker reads high results and it’s recommended to use a different kit for phosphate.
I wonder how long this would last after stopping high doses of Silicates… I guess it depends on how quickly the system uses it up.
 
I’ve heard this before…. When dosing high amounts of silicates (to beat dinos) the Hanna checker reads high results and it’s recommended to use a different kit for phosphate.
I wonder how long this would last after stopping high doses of Silicates… I guess it depends on how quickly the system uses it up.

The data above in the Taricha post suggests this is not the explanation.
 
Okay, I just tested and here are the results :

Nitrates (Hanna) : 12 ppm
Phosphates (Hanna) : 0,9 ppm
Phosphates (Salifert) : 0 ppm (it must be a little above 0 but this test is not very precise.)
 

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