How long can a fish survive with flukes?

[nanomania]

I would like to know this, as its been a couple of months since my ywg wierd behaviour and flame goby scratching. But still they eat and look healthy.

Are gobies too hardy to be killed by flukes???

 

[Shaddow_wolf169]

Gobies can but it doesn't affect them as fast a regular fish. They have a really thick mucus. Best thing for flukes is an ro bath. I have dipped mine form 10 to 20 minutes. Use a clear bucket and you will see the flukes.

 

[USMC 4 LIFE]

If you're going to do a dip do it right. Don't just throw them in there for 10 mins.

Get a black bucket, fill it with RODI water and have it set to the same temp as your DT. Make sure the water is aerated for at least ten minutes before hand. Put the fish in there for 5 mins and then back to its tank if not flukes are spotted.

 

[nanomania]

If you're going to do a dip do it right. Don't just throw them in there for 10 mins.

Get a black bucket, fill it with RODI water and have it set to the same temp as your DT. Make sure the water is aerated for at least ten minutes before hand. Put the fish in there for 5 mins and then back to its tank if not flukes are spotted.

Have been treating with praziquantle, havnt tried fw baths, a bit nervous. Plannin to introduce cleaner shrimps, as iv red smwhere that they eat flukes.

 

[ngoodermuth]

Have been treating with praziquantle, havnt tried fw baths, a bit nervous. Plannin to introduce cleaner shrimps, as iv red smwhere that they eat flukes.

I would not fw dip for longer than 5 minutes. It's actually pretty easy though, I hang a specimen cup filled with RO water inside the tank (to temp match) throw in an airline and let it aerate a few minutes, and it's ready to go. Put the fish in and observe, they will likely freak out or play dead - just make sure the gills are still moving quickly, it's not as bad as they make it look.

However, you said you have treated with prazi? How many doses and how far apart?

 

[nanomania]

I would not fw dip for longer than 5 minutes. It's actually pretty easy though, I hang a specimen cup filled with RO water inside the tank (to temp match) throw in an airline and let it aerate a few minutes, and it's ready to go. Put the fish in and observe, they will likely freak out or play dead - just make sure the gills are still moving quickly, it's not as bad as they make it look.

However, you said you have treated with prazi? How many doses and how far apart?

3 doses total. However im not sure its flukes or smthing else, i made this thread coz i jus wana find out wether its flukes or someting else

 

[4FordFamily]

Doesn't sound like flukes, then. What other fish are present?

 

[ngoodermuth]

Were the doses 5-7 days apart? This is important, if it was less than 5 days or more than 7 then the lifecycle wouldn't be broken.

 

[maroun.c]

I do a baseline FW dip to confirm that it's flukes. then do couple of rounds of prazi. first roudn is 5 days followed by a 50% water change, wait 1 week and do another round of prazi. then I run any other treatments I need to do (copper if fish is showing any spots...) before fish goes back to DT I run another FW dip to verify that no flukes are there as I beleive there are some more resisting flukes to prazi.
I'm frequently seeing a reaction to prazi the moment I dose with ifsh twitching aggressively, not sure if this is a sign of flukes detaching as the result is supposed to be instant, I had an achilles stop breathing then breath/swim heavy for couple of hours after prazi dosing.
another method I will start trying is a FW bath with prazi or a saltwater bath with prazi at higher conentration for 30 min. (stuill need to workout what concentration to go with) prazi has you stop filtration for a week and then gets skimmer to overflow for a couple of days adn then you have to treat again so water quality suffer. a 30 min bath might be useful if proven effective.
I also mix food with prazi for 2-3 days to better deal with internal parasites.

 

[nanomania]

Were the doses 5-7 days apart? This is important, if it was less than 5 days or more than 7 then the lifecycle wouldn't be broken.

Yes.

 

[nanomania]

Doesn't sound like flukes, then. What other fish are present?

Its a new tank, jus 2 fishes.

 

[nanomania]

I do a baseline FW dip to confirm that it's flukes. then do couple of rounds of prazi. first roudn is 5 days followed by a 50% water change, wait 1 week and do another round of prazi. then I run any other treatments I need to do (copper if fish is showing any spots...) before fish goes back to DT I run another FW dip to verify that no flukes are there as I beleive there are some more resisting flukes to prazi.
I'm frequently seeing a reaction to prazi the moment I dose with ifsh twitching aggressively, not sure if this is a sign of flukes detaching as the result is supposed to be instant, I had an achilles stop breathing then breath/swim heavy for couple of hours after prazi dosing.
another method I will start trying is a FW bath with prazi or a saltwater bath with prazi at higher conentration for 30 min. (stuill need to workout what concentration to go with) prazi has you stop filtration for a week and then gets skimmer to overflow for a couple of days adn then you have to treat again so water quality suffer. a 30 min bath might be useful if proven effective.
I also mix food with prazi for 2-3 days to better deal with internal parasites.

Thats exactly my fish does. I doswd in dt as there are no corals yet. Doesnt have skimmer yet, there was no carbon when i dosed prazi

 

[ngoodermuth]

So, you are at a crossroads here. It's either:
A. Prazi-resistant flukes or
B. Not flukes at all

My best advice would be to bite the bullet and do the freshwater dip. If its flukes, you will see them in the dip, and you can proceed to treat them with other methods (formalin bath or hypo-salinity)

If it's not flukes, we have to assume there is another parasite to blame - most likely ich or velvet.

In either of these scenarios, its a good idea to go ahead and get a QT tank rolling- since you will need to starve out whichever is lurking in your DT and treatment will be more effective/safer/easier to handle in QT.

 

[nanomania]

So, you are at a crossroads here. It's either:
A. Prazi-resistant flukes or
B. Not flukes at all

My best advice would be to bite the bullet and do the freshwater dip. If its flukes, you will see them in the dip, and you can proceed to treat them with other methods (formalin bath or hypo-salinity)

If it's not flukes, we have to assume there is another parasite to blame - most likely ich or velvet.

In either of these scenarios, its a good idea to go ahead and get a QT tank rolling- since you will need to starve out whichever is lurking in your DT and treatment will be more effective/safer/easier to handle in QT.

Its not ich velvet for sure... Will try fw

 

[TonapahNorth]

Have been treating with praziquantle, havnt tried fw baths, a bit nervous. Plannin to introduce cleaner shrimps, as iv red smwhere that they eat flukes.

FW dip isn't problematic for fish. No need to be nervous. For a fish with flukes, it's gonna be an absolute blessing for it. Just do it. Follow @USMC 4 LIFE directions above.

 

[nanomania]

Ignore the background sound

 

[Ty Hamatake]

Ignore the background sound

*watches video to hear background sound*

 

[nanomania]

*watches video to hear background sound*

Lol

 

[nanomania]

Some closeups

 

[ngoodermuth]

The fish looks fine to me, and I wouldn't be too concerned about him pacing the glass like in the video, unless it's all the time (just be wary or make sure your aquarium is covered, these guys can jump if they want to) I had a yellow watchman, he would do something similar from time to time when we first got him. It's probably still settling in.

The only behavior I would be concerned with is the scratching you described. Is that still happening? Do you have a video of that?