How many corals can you add at one time

I'm new to reefing too, so I'd like to weigh in on this issue as I just went through/am going through it, but take my advice for what it is-advice from a fellow newbie who's a couple months ahead of you experience-wise.

My system is now about 8 months old and I still don't consider it "stable." I've got my alkalinity stable 8.2-8.3 every day, but my Nitrates and Phosphates are still swinging more wildly than I'd like them to, bottoming out to undetectable at times.

When you first setup a tank, you're worried about the Nitrogen cycle. That needs to happen in order to support fish. This is complete when you have 0 ammonia, 0 nitrite and some nitrates-it has to be exactly this combo. Once that happens you can safely add 1 fish. Additional fish can be added every few weeks/month once the bacteria in your tank have a chance to catch up. Corals are a different story though. Ammonia doesn't bother them from what I understand, so theoretically you can add them on day one as far as the nitrogen cycle is concerned. Does that mean you should? No. Mainly because there is so much to learn in reefing that it's just impossible to be setup for coral success on Day 1.

The general recommendation is to start off with soft corals then Large Polyp Stony (LPS) corals the Small Polyp Stony (SPS) corals. Most on here will say just avoid SPS for year one, I tend to agree. But you can definitely add some soft corals around day 60, IMO. Keep in mind, your tank won't be "stable" and you're going to go through all sorts of algae blooms along the way, but that's ok. IMO it's important to add a few beginner corals otherwise its hard to see value in performing tank maintenance, new people can easily lose interest thinking "why am I doing all this work for an empty tank?" Been there.

My first coral was a Ricordea Florida added around the 45 day mark. Some others that would be good to start with are mushrooms, zoanthids, leather corals, pulsing xenia, kenya tree, candy cane coral (although this is LPS, so save for when you've kept the soft corals going for a month or two).

My best recommendation is to test like a mad man (or woman). It's really helped me get "in tune" with my tank. I've literally tested the water for alkalinity daily, phosphates & nitrates 3-5 times a week. It will help you get to understand the reef tank chemistry and learn what's going on in your tank and how it reacts to the changes you are seeing with your eyes. Many test alkalinity daily or even multiple times a day (SPS dominate systems), nitrates and phosphates at least weekly but more frequently doesn't hurt. This is a good place to start.

Definitely do some more reading, learn how reef tank chemistry works and the relationship between alkalinity, calcium, magnesium, phosphate, nitrates and pH have with corals. It sounds daunting at first, but if you immerse yourself in data by reading, watching videos and testing frequently you'll pick it up.

There are a ton of helpful people on these forums and I pester them all with questions frequently, so don't be afraid to ask. But sometimes it's better to pick one source of information and follow that because there are so many varying ways to accomplish a reef tank that various forum opinions can be overwhelming. I like the Bulk Reef Supply 52 weeks of Reefing Series and also My First Fish Tank on You Tube. They helped me answer a lot of newbie questions when I was just getting started.
 
I'm new to reefing too, so I'd like to weigh in on this issue as I just went through/am going through it, but take my advice for what it is-advice from a fellow newbie who's a couple months ahead of you experience-wise.

My system is now about 8 months old and I still don't consider it "stable." I've got my alkalinity stable 8.2-8.3 every day, but my Nitrates and Phosphates are still swinging more wildly than I'd like them to, bottoming out to undetectable at times.

When you first setup a tank, you're worried about the Nitrogen cycle. That needs to happen in order to support fish. This is complete when you have 0 ammonia, 0 nitrite and some nitrates-it has to be exactly this combo. Once that happens you can safely add 1 fish. Additional fish can be added every few weeks/month once the bacteria in your tank have a chance to catch up. Corals are a different story though. Ammonia doesn't bother them from what I understand, so theoretically you can add them on day one as far as the nitrogen cycle is concerned. Does that mean you should? No. Mainly because there is so much to learn in reefing that it's just impossible to be setup for coral success on Day 1.

The general recommendation is to start off with soft corals then Large Polyp Stony (LPS) corals the Small Polyp Stony (SPS) corals. Most on here will say just avoid SPS for year one, I tend to agree. But you can definitely add some soft corals around day 60, IMO. Keep in mind, your tank won't be "stable" and you're going to go through all sorts of algae blooms along the way, but that's ok. IMO it's important to add a few beginner corals otherwise its hard to see value in performing tank maintenance, new people can easily lose interest thinking "why am I doing all this work for an empty tank?" Been there.

My first coral was a Ricordea Florida added around the 45 day mark. Some others that would be good to start with are mushrooms, zoanthids, leather corals, pulsing xenia, kenya tree, candy cane coral (although this is LPS, so save for when you've kept the soft corals going for a month or two).

My best recommendation is to test like a mad man (or woman). It's really helped me get "in tune" with my tank. I've literally tested the water for alkalinity daily, phosphates & nitrates 3-5 times a week. It will help you get to understand the reef tank chemistry and learn what's going on in your tank and how it reacts to the changes you are seeing with your eyes. Many test alkalinity daily or even multiple times a day (SPS dominate systems), nitrates and phosphates at least weekly but more frequently doesn't hurt. This is a good place to start.

Definitely do some more reading, learn how reef tank chemistry works and the relationship between alkalinity, calcium, magnesium, phosphate, nitrates and pH have with corals. It sounds daunting at first, but if you immerse yourself in data by reading, watching videos and testing frequently you'll pick it up.

There are a ton of helpful people on these forums and I pester them all with questions frequently, so don't be afraid to ask. But sometimes it's better to pick one source of information and follow that because there are so many varying ways to accomplish a reef tank that various forum opinions can be overwhelming. I like the Bulk Reef Supply 52 weeks of Reefing Series and also My First Fish Tank on You Tube. They helped me answer a lot of newbie questions when I was just getting started.
Super helpful. Thanks. Been watching A LOT of the BRS vids. Always really informative.
 
I also highly recommend you log your data. I use an App called Aquarimate and it will make nice charts for you to track patterns. When the lines get flatter, your tank chemistry is more stable.

You'll notice the wide variations farther back and start to see some leveling off more recently if you look at my tank's data.
 

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I also highly recommend you log your data. I use an App called Aquarimate and it will make nice charts for you to track patterns. When the lines get flatter, your tank chemistry is more stable.

You'll notice the wide variations farther back and start to see some leveling off more recently if you look at my tank's data.
Love it. Will download it tonight.
 
Super helpful. Thanks. Been watching A LOT of the BRS vids. Always really informative.
Good deal, BRS has good content. I like to force myself to remember that they are in the business of selling aquarium products, so there is always that "conflict of interest," to be cognizant of but for the most part, their information is helpful and free of bias, IMO.
 
I'm new to reefing too, so I'd like to weigh in on this issue as I just went through/am going through it, but take my advice for what it is-advice from a fellow newbie who's a couple months ahead of you experience-wise.

My system is now about 8 months old and I still don't consider it "stable." I've got my alkalinity stable 8.2-8.3 every day, but my Nitrates and Phosphates are still swinging more wildly than I'd like them to, bottoming out to undetectable at times.

When you first setup a tank, you're worried about the Nitrogen cycle. That needs to happen in order to support fish. This is complete when you have 0 ammonia, 0 nitrite and some nitrates-it has to be exactly this combo. Once that happens you can safely add 1 fish. Additional fish can be added every few weeks/month once the bacteria in your tank have a chance to catch up. Corals are a different story though. Ammonia doesn't bother them from what I understand, so theoretically you can add them on day one as far as the nitrogen cycle is concerned. Does that mean you should? No. Mainly because there is so much to learn in reefing that it's just impossible to be setup for coral success on Day 1.

The general recommendation is to start off with soft corals then Large Polyp Stony (LPS) corals the Small Polyp Stony (SPS) corals. Most on here will say just avoid SPS for year one, I tend to agree. But you can definitely add some soft corals around day 60, IMO. Keep in mind, your tank won't be "stable" and you're going to go through all sorts of algae blooms along the way, but that's ok. IMO it's important to add a few beginner corals otherwise its hard to see value in performing tank maintenance, new people can easily lose interest thinking "why am I doing all this work for an empty tank?" Been there.

My first coral was a Ricordea Florida added around the 45 day mark. Some others that would be good to start with are mushrooms, zoanthids, leather corals, pulsing xenia, kenya tree, candy cane coral (although this is LPS, so save for when you've kept the soft corals going for a month or two).

My best recommendation is to test like a mad man (or woman). It's really helped me get "in tune" with my tank. I've literally tested the water for alkalinity daily, phosphates & nitrates 3-5 times a week. It will help you get to understand the reef tank chemistry and learn what's going on in your tank and how it reacts to the changes you are seeing with your eyes. Many test alkalinity daily or even multiple times a day (SPS dominate systems), nitrates and phosphates at least weekly but more frequently doesn't hurt. This is a good place to start.

Definitely do some more reading, learn how reef tank chemistry works and the relationship between alkalinity, calcium, magnesium, phosphate, nitrates and pH have with corals. It sounds daunting at first, but if you immerse yourself in data by reading, watching videos and testing frequently you'll pick it up.

There are a ton of helpful people on these forums and I pester them all with questions frequently, so don't be afraid to ask. But sometimes it's better to pick one source of information and follow that because there are so many varying ways to accomplish a reef tank that various forum opinions can be overwhelming. I like the Bulk Reef Supply 52 weeks of Reefing Series and also My First Fish Tank on You Tube. They helped me answer a lot of newbie questions when I was just getting started.
Nice and informative response also, from a newer older reefer :) Thank you.
 
I have read this and some comments made me think, 'wow' and that is why I hesitate to post sometimes myself. I think the OP is excited and does want to learn. How do we all do that without asking? I know most have been in this hobby for a long time and have tons of knowledge but please don't forget how you felt when you first started out also.
We try to learn from all your experience. Sometimes the information is so overwhelming and someone like myself or the OP is trying to be careful to do it all right because you're always feeling like you could do something wrong that could have a huge impact on something so beautiful.
 
Ah well I didn't want people to perceive my questioning as not liking the answer. They were genuine questions on what I should be looking for. I can wait. I can be patient to add corals, I don't mind that. I just really didn't know what I was supposed to be looking for IF anything.

I just got out of my cycle. How I know I had a successful cycle is by diligently measuring Ammonia and Nitrites.

I am new so assumed "When to add corals" is the same process. I was wrong. It is apparently far more subjective then simple measurements.

I know this now. Came asking about coral numbers and learned all kinds of stuff about adding all kinds of corals lol

That is the point of this forum. Sorry if my questioning came off as childish petulance, I just genuinely didn't know and wanted to learn.
All good, every day is a school day! Keep on reefing.
 
Nice and informative response also, from a newer older reefer :) Thank you.
Excellent synopsis.

Testing is great over time you can tell just by looking at your tank something is off.

Like people have said leathers, zoas, maybe even a xenia are good to start.

buy small ones and just see how they do….
 
Good deal, BRS has good content. I like to force myself to remember that they are in the business of selling aquarium products, so there is always that "conflict of interest," to be cognizant of but for the most part, their information is helpful and free of bias, IMO.
I think they do a good job as well. I’ve been in the hobby for 25 years so i’ve seen tons of changes.

There is always some never do this but more often then not there is more than one way to skin a cat.
 
My opinion is if people think my question/opinion is stupid they can move on to a different thread. That’s the beauty of forums.

I definitely agree that you need to do your own research in this hobby, but sometimes the conflicting views makes that ultra challenging. The amount of content I’ve watched/read borders on OCD. Even after doing hours of reading, sometimes it’s more helpful to ask your present your specific scenario and get feedback directly to make sure you’re on the right track.
 
My opinion is if people think my question/opinion is stupid they can move on to a different thread. That’s the beauty of forums.

I definitely agree that you need to do your own research in this hobby, but sometimes the conflicting views makes that ultra challenging. The amount of content I’ve watched/read borders on OCD. Even after doing hours of reading, sometimes it’s more helpful to ask your present your specific scenario and get feedback directly to make sure you’re on the right track.
Without offense, this is the internet, not research... You must differentiate between the process of science and YouTube. It can be a valuable source of opinion, but the information is not bullet proof.
 
Without offense, this is the internet, not research... You must differentiate between the process of science and YouTube. It can be a valuable source of opinion, but the information is not bullet proof.
You know what they say about opinions?
 
I would wait a few weeks to a month after your cycle before adding any corals. Even if the tank is "chemically" cycled, I like to wait at least a month after until things really settle in. In general, people tend to add fish before coral after their cycles because fish can provide nutrients naturally to the system. IMO, it's much easier to run a reef, especially an SPS reef, with fish. Once stabilized with fish and nutrient export, then in a few weeks I would purchase soft corals as mentioned previously. It's great that you were able to start with real pre-seeded live rock. That will definitely help in maturity, but there is still a natural course that the tank has to take before it matures. If you need any advice on fish stocking, feel free to reach out too. I would recommend smaller fish for a 32g like a clownfish, a rainsford goby, or a clown goby. There are other fish options too. I would also do some research into quarantining fish, or buying the fish prequarantined to avoid any parasite/disease issues both now and farther down the road. Here's a link to a thread on quarantining (QT):
https://www.reef2reef.com/threads/how-to-properly-quarantine-fish.170878/

There's a lot of great info in past threads for both fish and coral, and I find myself using the search function a lot to see people's past experiences with a coral/fish or on a topic in general. Hope this helps and good luck!
 
I am a scientist. People think that exploring the internet is research. It is not.
I suppose in a science context you are correct, but the semantics are likely beyond the scope of these forums/members. Seems a little off topic, so I'll just apologize if I offended you with my use of the word research - I was just referring to the vernacular
 
I suppose in a science context you are correct, but the semantics are likely beyond the scope of these forums/members. Seems a little off topic, so I'll just apologize if I offended you with my use of the word research - I was just referring to the vernacular
No worries, no offense taken. Sorry for getting off topic.
 
Without offense, this is the internet, not research... You must differentiate between the process of science and YouTube. It can be a valuable source of opinion, but the information is not bullet proof.
I come from keeping invertebrates. Specifically arachnids.

We ONLY use scientific names on forums and if the data doesn't come from a published, peer reviewed research paper the advice is taken with a grain of salt.

So once again pardon my focus on objectivity.
 

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