How many Fish in a 65 gallon

[saltwaterlover]

Hey guys[emoji1309] so I’m making my fish list rn [emoji225][emoji23]
I’ve approximately figured out how many fish I can have in a 65 gallon but I want other people’s opinions.

I’m gonna list fish I would like to consider and then people tell me how many of those they think I can have in a 65 because i want to know what other people think[emoji848]
I’m not having to much rock so there will be a lot of swimming room.

2Orange Clownfish-must
2Black Clownfish-must
1Dwarf Fuzzy Lionfish-must
1Longnose Hawkfish-not sure
3Green Blue Chromis-not to worried about them
1Blue Tang-would love one
1Yellow Tang-not sure
1One Spot Foxface-would love one


Ive done a looot or research about all these fish and if they are ok together and the tank size is [emoji1419]
The only ones to really worry about are the clowns and lionfish but because I’m gonna buy the clowns first then dwarf lion so the clowns will be bigger than him until he grows a bit more[emoji7]

Thanks! [emoji1303]

 

[Cruz Mc5]

The tank seems small for either of the tangs.

 

[saltwaterlover]

The tank seems small for either of the tangs.

I wasn’t sure because a lot of people have so many options [emoji23] it’s a pretty spacey tank the measurements are 70cm h x 120cm w x 38cm d

 

[Cruz Mc5]

I think Kole Tangs or Bristletooth tangs would be better suited for your size (which is approximately my size although mine is a little bigger).

 

[saltwaterlover]

I think Kole Tangs or Bristletooth tangs would be better suited for your size (which is approximately my size although mine is a little bigger).

I do like kole tangs [emoji7][emoji23] what else would you say I could fit in with that?

 

[Marine Iguana]

What type of filtration do you have, thats a pretty heavy bioload for a smaller tank. IMO that stock list won't work out long term. A 65 doesn't give enough room for 2 different pairs of clowns to stake out territories, and if they don't outright kill eachother, the stress will leave them vulnerable to disease and infection. The dwarf fuzzy lion has a good chance at going for the clowns- its not uncommon for them to reach 5-6 inches, and they are more than capable of eating fish half their size. Lions also often take a long time to transition from live food- are you willing to put the time and effort in providing proper nutrition for the lion? If you do chromis, as they mature they will start to pick on eachother, usually resulting in one chromis in the end (had this experience with my 65 years ago). Finally, the tangs/foxface will outgrow that tank. I tried a one spot foxface in my 65 2 years back, they grow like weeds and without having a large tank to swim in become rather skittish. Ended up giving him to a buddy with a 225 and he's now way more calm and relaxed (and about 10 inches long now). If you're set on a tang, like was said before check out tomini or kole tangs, they tend to stay smaller and more people have success with them in smaller tanks.

Not trying to rain on your parade with the stocklist, just want to make sure that whatever fish you add will thrive long term and result in an enjoyable experience! In my 65, I've had success with doing 6 small/medium fish (clowns, flasher wrasse, blennies, gobies etc), and then one or two "showstopper" fish (dwarf angel, halichoeres wrasse, leopard wrasse, kole tang, etc). Also, it would be a shame if you didn't manage to get a wrasse into that tank somehow

 

[Captain Quint]

Great thread with solid advice.

Thanks for the posting of this thread @saltwaterlover

 

[saltwaterlover]

What type of filtration do you have, thats a pretty heavy bioload for a smaller tank. IMO that stock list won't work out long term. A 65 doesn't give enough room for 2 different pairs of clowns to stake out territories, and if they don't outright kill eachother, the stress will leave them vulnerable to disease and infection. The dwarf fuzzy lion has a good chance at going for the clowns- its not uncommon for them to reach 5-6 inches, and they are more than capable of eating fish half their size. Lions also often take a long time to transition from live food- are you willing to put the time and effort in providing proper nutrition for the lion? If you do chromis, as they mature they will start to pick on eachother, usually resulting in one chromis in the end (had this experience with my 65 years ago). Finally, the tangs/foxface will outgrow that tank. I tried a one spot foxface in my 65 2 years back, they grow like weeds and without having a large tank to swim in become rather skittish. Ended up giving him to a buddy with a 225 and he's now way more calm and relaxed (and about 10 inches long now). If you're set on a tang, like was said before check out tomini or kole tangs, they tend to stay smaller and more people have success with them in smaller tanks.

Not trying to rain on your parade with the stocklist, just want to make sure that whatever fish you add will thrive long term and result in an enjoyable experience! In my 65, I've had success with doing 6 small/medium fish (clowns, flasher wrasse, blennies, gobies etc), and then one or two "showstopper" fish (dwarf angel, halichoeres wrasse, leopard wrasse, kole tang, etc). Also, it would be a shame if you didn't manage to get a wrasse into that tank somehow

Haha ty so much! It doesn’t rain on my parade it’s really good advice ty. I think I’ll venture into a Kole tang seen as they are so pretty. What kind of wrasse would you advise?

 

[saltwaterlover]

Great thread with solid advice.

Thanks for the posting of this thread @saltwaterlover

[emoji1303]

 

[reaper0268]

Stay with 2 clowns, the hawk fish, one chromi, and the yellow tang. Grammas are also beautiful and entertaining.

Do as much reading as you can. There are many different methods and opinions. I've been in the hobby 20 years. It took me 10 years to figure out what the heck I was doing. Start small and be extremely patient.

 

[Marine Iguana]

Haha ty so much! It doesn’t rain on my parade it’s really good advice ty. I think I’ll venture into a Kole tang seen as they are so pretty. What kind of wrasse would you advise?

Anytime, this is a really great place to go for solid information, there’s a lot of great, kind people here with decades of experience. My recommendation for affordable and hardy wrasse would be Lubbock’s wrasse, social fairy wrasse, carpenters flasher wrasse, yellow corris wrasse, melanurus wrasse, and christmas wrasse (realize the last 3 may snack on small shrimp and crabs).

 

[saltwaterlover]

Stay with 2 clowns, the hawk fish, one chromi, and the yellow tang. Grammas are also beautiful and entertaining.

Do as much reading as you can. There are many different methods and opinions. I've been in the hobby 20 years. It took me 10 years to figure out what the heck I was doing. Start small and be extremely patient.

Awesome tysm!

 

[saltwaterlover]

Anytime, this is a really great place to go for solid information, there’s a lot of great, kind people here with decades of experience. My recommendation for affordable and hardy wrasse would be Lubbock’s wrasse, social fairy wrasse, carpenters flasher wrasse, yellow corris wrasse, melanurus wrasse, and christmas wrasse (realize the last 3 may snack on small shrimp and crabs).

I’ve looked into red velvet fairy and orange back wrasse before what do you think about them? People say they can even go together and then others are like nooo about putting them both together

 

[joec]

Stick with fish with a maximum adult size of maybe 4-4.5 inches for that size tank. Maybe 3-4 of the them and then the rest smaller than that. Putting 7", 8" or bigger fish in a 36" tank is not a good idea, IMO. You really need a 4" tank, 75G or larger for even the smallest of tangs.

You can only have one pair of clowns

 

[Marine Iguana]

I’ve looked into red velvet fairy and orange back wrasse before what do you think about them? People say they can even go together and then others are like nooo about putting them both together

I don't have experience with mixing, I did love the orange back I had years ago. Just keep in mind that fairy wrasse are incredibly active- I would stick to the smaller species in a 65. If you like the look of fairy wrasse, take a look at some of the species of flasher wrasse- they stay smaller than most fairy wrasse species and would be more comfortable in a 65.

 

[saltwaterlover]

I don't have experience with mixing, I did love the orange back I had years ago. Just keep in mind that fairy wrasse are incredibly active- I would stick to the smaller species in a 65. If you like the look of fairy wrasse, take a look at some of the species of flasher wrasse- they stay smaller than most fairy wrasse species and would be more comfortable in a 65.

Ok awesome ty

 

[Jesterrace]

Hey guys[emoji1309] so I’m making my fish list rn [emoji225][emoji23]
I’ve approximately figured out how many fish I can have in a 65 gallon but I want other people’s opinions.

I’m gonna list fish I would like to consider and then people tell me how many of those they think I can have in a 65 because i want to know what other people think[emoji848]
I’m not having to much rock so there will be a lot of swimming room.

2Orange Clownfish-must
2Black Clownfish-must
1Dwarf Fuzzy Lionfish-must
1Longnose Hawkfish-not sure
3Green Blue Chromis-not to worried about them
1Blue Tang-would love one
1Yellow Tang-not sure
1One Spot Foxface-would love one


Ive done a looot or research about all these fish and if they are ok together and the tank size is [emoji1419]
The only ones to really worry about are the clowns and lionfish but because I’m gonna buy the clowns first then dwarf lion so the clowns will be bigger than him until he grows a bit more[emoji7]

Thanks! [emoji1303]

4 clownfish in a 65 gallon is asking for trouble. Pick one pair and go with it. I'd skip the Chromis they tend to pick each other off over time. Tangs are too big for your tank, the Blue is recommended for a minimum of 180 gallons when it is grown. YT would be a complete jerk in that size tank after it gets about half size (I had one that tried to take over my 90 gallon after less than a month). Foxface is also too big for a 65 gallon. Smaller fish will likely become food for the lionfish (will eat whatever it can fit in it's mouth). I would strongly suggest some wrasses for your tank. There are several that will work in a 65 gallon:

https://www.liveaquaria.com/categor...78&r=28+3166&s=ts&start=1&page_num=1&count=24

https://www.liveaquaria.com/category/1379/wrasse-fish-only-tanks?c=15+1379&r=