How much aggression is too much for juvenile clowns?

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Hello everyone!
I introduced two juvenile (no bigger than 1.25”) clowns into my tank on Dec 29. One is an orange storm and the other is a Davinci clown. The orange storm is just slightly bigger than the Davinci and is showing much more aggression. They do swim together and sleep together, but every once in a while the orange storm will nip at the davinci. Sometimes he will submit and twitch, and other times he just swims away from her and she leaves him alone. I don’t see any jaw-locking or severe thrashing, just nipping. I say “her” because I assume she will become the female between the two since she is slightly larger and showing much more aggression.

None of this behavior has prevented the submissive Davinci to show signs of stress. He’s still out in the front of the tank pacing the glass and exploring the tank and will still sleep with the Orange storm. But he is experiencing some fin damage as a result of the behavior. It started on his pectoral fin, and now his Caudal fin has some damage as well.

My question is: how much damage should I let happen before these fish need to be separated? I know aggression is a normal part of figuring out the hierarchy but I don’t want the davinci to die as a result. So far he’s happy as a clam even with his damaged fin, so I am doing everything I can to make sure he has a good diet to heal quickly. What else can I do to ensure quick recovery, and when should I call it quits and put the aggressor in a breeding box? Also - if I do separate them, when is it time to reintroduce them to each other? Does temporary separation and reintroduction even do anything for their long term relationship except give the damaged fish a break?

The attached pics show Tuesday vs. today (Friday) in the caudal fin damage. The Tuesday image is the one with more natural lighting and the current image is the bluer lights. You can see the damage got slightly worse.

Thanks!

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Are both still eating? I would order an acclimation box or buy one from your lfs. You can place the injured fish inside for some R&R
 
Are both still eating? I would order an acclimation box or buy one from your lfs. You can place the injured fish inside for some R&R
Yep! They’re both eating like pigs. I have one coming from Amazon tomorrow as a just-in-case things get bad safety net.
 
About 10 days has gone by and for the most part I saw no new damage but 2 days ago I noticed some more damage to his tail :/

He’s showing no signs of stress and is still a happy little clown and eating really well. He will sleep with the other clown still and usually follows her around. It’s just that sometimes she will nip at him, and he will either swim away or sometimes will submissively twitch.

On the fence if I want to separate for a bit or not, as I feel like it’s just better for nature to take its course here and they will eventually pair.

What do you guys think about this damage to his caudal fin?

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