How much algae is too much algae?

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Hi! I have a 5 gallon saltwater tank holding 2 clownfish and a red legged crab. They just had a tank cleaning, but my question is how do I know when there’s too much algae? I’ve watched videos and read forums but everyone stank so different. I thought I needed to lower the amount of light received but even then still grows really fast. The lower right rock wasn’t covered at all until yesterday and even started growing on the crushed coral. Should I just replace the live rock as a whole ??? Help :(

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Would end up costing you a fortune throwing awlay rocks that cost you good money just because a little algae on them ^_^
My opinion of algae ( depending which kind it is that its free food for the fish and cuc members and aslong as it not smoothering and hindering my corals from growing then all good aslong as i........
If gets to long,i manually pick it off or use toothbrush to scrub the rocks whilst in the tank and have toothbrush elastica band around hose when doing water change so as im scrunbing rocks it comes off and hopefully all goes up the hose.
And i would also be mindfull of had lots of algae and my nitrates/ phosphate was reading 0 then it could be a false reading as the algae using it all and probably using it before the corals can and i read 0 nitrate/ phosphate can lead to dino's and some these donos can kill corals and fish apparently.
But my main reason would be if i looked at the tank and was disgusted with myself how bad i let it become,but my plan is i keep adding cuc if current cuc cant keep up with keeping the algae in check along with me at weekly wc day doing my cleaning up as im the biggest and best cuc member of my tank.
So it just personal preference mainly off how each individual can tolerate it as some get few specs and freak out and sone have full grown hair algae swaying in the current and think it looks cool ^_^ but it doesnt bother me this last 8 months i had tank set up with me going through various different " ugly stages" as dont think that bad but probably not that bad as keep adding cuc and weekly wc/ maintence day
 
Hi! I have a 5 gallon saltwater tank holding 2 clownfish and a red legged crab. They just had a tank cleaning, but my question is how do I know when there’s too much algae? I’ve watched videos and read forums but everyone stank so different. I thought I needed to lower the amount of light received but even then still grows really fast. The lower right rock wasn’t covered at all until yesterday and even started growing on the crushed coral. Should I just replace the live rock as a whole ??? Help :(

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I'm currently going through an algae bloom and my aquarium looks awful, your pic looks to me like your algae problem is lighting too high as you have higher concentration of algae at top/ and not in shadows, (bottom ball rock to the right has little algae in the shade), I have
toned my white light down to 6 hrs a day/ 5% output
 
I'm currently going through an algae bloom and my aquarium looks awful, your pic looks to me like your algae problem is lighting too high as you have higher concentration of algae at top/ and not in shadows, (bottom ball rock to the right has little algae in the shade), I have
toned my white light down to 6 hrs a day/ 5% output
So adjust lighting 1st.
 
And to add i dont think the algae on any your rocks looks that bad imo.
You only 5 gallon so cant add anymore fish imo so that rules out employing a fish to eat the algae but you could add some trouchus snails or any cuc members that will go in a 5 gallon and are known to eat what kind algae you got.( you will have to research both them if thats route you wanted to take)
 
I'm currently going through an algae bloom and my aquarium looks awful, your pic looks to me like your algae problem is lighting too high as you have higher concentration of algae at top/ and not in shadows, (bottom ball rock to the right has little algae in the shade), I have
toned my white light down to 6 hrs a day/ 5% output
Thank you so much! They normally have a light on during the day, but now I realize it’s tooo much !
 
And to add i dont think the algae on any your rocks looks that bad imo.
You only 5 gallon so cant add anymore fish imo so that rules out employing a fish to eat the algae but you could add some trouchus snails or any cuc members that will go in a 5 gallon and are known to eat what kind algae you got.( you will have to research both them if thats route you wanted to take)
Thank you!!!!
 
You have too much algae; when it sucks all the nutrients out of the water, leading to a dinoflagellates outbreak. Here’s what I think happens; You set up a new tank. You turn the lights on but there’s nothing sucking up nitrates and phosphates. Algae such as hair and turf algae, among others (not that bad IMO), are first to take advantage of the high nutrient environment. If nutrients remain high, and possibly other factors such as flow and light are favorable, Cyanobacteria can begin to take hold. Cyanobacteria can outcompete the turf and hair algae, coat everything, and cause harm to other organisms. If the Cyanobacteria absorbs too much nutrients, Dinoflagellates will take advantage of the very low nutrient environment. If instead of the nutrients remaining high early on, they bottom out, it will again leave the door open to dinos.

Nutrients should be balanced, and will need to be exported from the water. Timing your water changes correctly, and changing the right amount of water is one way to attempt to balance nutrient levels. This alone might not stop the growth of algae such as hair and turf algae. The addition of a refugium with macro algae, and the addition of more and/or larger and/or faster growing corals are the best ways to get algae out of your display tank, and will give you some wiggle room when it comes to nutrient balance.

I might have some of this wrong, but from personal experience and a lot of reading, I believe this to be pretty accurate. Without algae, or a large coral load, balance is hard to achieve. If you’re not growing ‘decorative’ macro algae in the display or a refugium, less desirable algae is likely to show up. Another thing to note is that nutrients from algae that die or are eaten inside the tank, have not left the tank.
 
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Thank you so much! They normally have a light on during the day, but now I realize it’s tooo much !

You have too much algae; when it sucks all the nutrients out of the water, leading to a dinoflagellates outbreak. Here’s what I think happens; You set up a new tank. You turn the lights on but there’s nothing sucking up nitrates and phosphates. Algae such as hair and turf algae, among others (not that bad IMO), are first to take advantage of the high nutrient environment. If nutrients remain high, and possibly other factors such as flow and light are favorable, Cyanobacteria can begin to take hold. Cyanobacteria can outcompete the turf and hair algae, coat everything, and cause harm to other organisms. If the Cyanobacteria absorbs too much nutrients, Dinoflagellates will take advantage of the very low nutrient environment. If instead of the nutrients remaining high early on, they bottom out, it will again leave the door open to dinos.

Nutrients should be balanced, and will need to be exported from the water. Timing your water changes correctly, and changing the right amount of water is one way to attempt to balance nutrient levels. This alone might not stop the growth of algae such as hair and turf algae. The addition of a refugium with macro algae, and the addition of more and/or larger and/or faster growing corals are the best ways to get algae out of your display tank, and will give you some wiggle room when it comes to nutrient balance.

I might have some of this wrong, but from personal experience and a lot of reading, I believe this to be pretty accurate. Without algae, or a large coral load, balance is hard to achieve. If you’re not growing ‘decorative’ macro algae in the display or a refugium, less desirable algae is likely to show up. Another thing to note is that nutrients from algae that dies or is eaten inside the tank, have not left the tank.
So my algae bloom started this way as mentioned, I could not see through my aquarium water, I toned down white lights for now close to 2 days, I have a £10 surface skimmer . I cleaned and swapped the sponge/ filter floss in my surface skimmer maybe 4 times today, I have not touched my main filter.... Easy peasy, no chemicals.
I know battle is not over but patience and perseverance is key... For me
 

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Would end up costing you a fortune throwing awlay rocks that cost you good money just because a little algae on them ^_^
My opinion of algae ( depending which kind it is that its free food for the fish and cuc members and aslong as it not smoothering and hindering my corals from growing then all good aslong as i........
If gets to long,i manually pick it off or use toothbrush to scrub the rocks whilst in the tank and have toothbrush elastica band around hose when doing water change so as im scrunbing rocks it comes off and hopefully all goes up the hose.
And i would also be mindfull of had lots of algae and my nitrates/ phosphate was reading 0 then it could be a false reading as the algae using it all and probably using it before the corals can and i read 0 nitrate/ phosphate can lead to dino's and some these donos can kill corals and fish apparently.
But my main reason would be if i looked at the tank and was disgusted with myself how bad i let it become,but my plan is i keep adding cuc if current cuc cant keep up with keeping the algae in check along with me at weekly wc day doing my cleaning up as im the biggest and best cuc member of my tank.
So it just personal preference mainly off how each individual can tolerate it as some get few specs and freak out and sone have full grown hair algae swaying in the current and think it looks cool ^_^ but it doesnt bother me this last 8 months i had tank set up with me going through various different " ugly stages" as dont think that bad but probably not that bad as keep adding cuc and weekly wc/ maintence day
It's too much for my taste. Those nano tanks can be tricky to keep stable

It could just be the uglies and just need the right-sized clean-up crew.

Have you tested your phosphates and your nitrates with any kits outside of API test kits?

Are you using pure RO/DI water for water charges and top-off water?
 
+1 for water testing and adjusting your tank parameters and cleanup crew. There is nothing catastrophic here. Just be patient and figure out the roots of the issue. It may take as long to dig yourself out of a hole as it took to dig yourself into a hole.
 
Great looking fish... I'm still looking for piccaso clown fish in uk? If anyone has small ?
 
IMHO you should be more worried about having too many fish. Couldn’t see it ever being in balance that overstocked. Clownfish need a bigger tank, 20 gallons preferably. Might have a much easier time if your stocking was realistic.

Think you will continue to have algae problems no matter what you do until you sort that out. Not many saltwater fish that will work in a 5 gallon tank and you might be limited to one.
 
IMHO you should be more worried about having too many fish. Couldn’t see it ever being in balance that overstocked. Clownfish need a bigger tank, 20 gallons preferably. Might have a much easier time if your stocking was realistic.

Think you will continue to have algae problems no matter what you do until you sort that out. Not many saltwater fish that will work in a 5 gallon tank and you might be limited to one.
I’m already aware they need to be in a bigger tank, they’re new tank (30 gallon) is actually cycling as I type. And the algae wasn’t that bad till I broke the light cycle. I’ve had this tank for about 3 months and the algae was never this bad until I realized I broke the light cycle. Even for a 5 gallon, I make sure my fish are taken care of, all the levels are right, and happy :) thanks
 
Great looking fish... I'm still looking for piccaso clown fish in uk? If anyone has small ?
Thank you! I actually got lucky on the Frostbite one! She didn’t realize she was underselling by A LOT haha
I’ve seen some Picasso, but more of the others here in Illinois
 

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