How much turn over does your sumo do?

[NancyFish]

Trying to decide on an overflow pump and figure out how much turn over my tank should have, now and down the line.

I’ve seen some people suggest 3x others 10x their total volume a hour.

 

[shakacuz]

generally i see 3-6x be used more than the other options you have listed. personally i am on the slower side of 3-4x

 

[mues]

im at about 1200gph on my 150

 

[scotty333]

I put 10 because my baffles are high and I need a bit of flow over my dsb

 

[UMALUM]

I know it might sound funny but your overflow and sump are ultimately going to determine your GPH not your return pump.

 

[NancyFish]

I put 10 because my baffles are high and I need a bit of flow over my dsb

I didn’t even think baffles can play a part. Good point

 

[NancyFish]

I

I know it might sound funny but your overflow and sump are ultimately going to determine your GPH not your return pump.

Im trying to figure it out and I feel like I’m learning math

 

[NancyFish]

im at about 1200gph on my 150

Does the higher turn over keep your tank cleaner or is it subjective to what you put in your sump

 

[NancyFish]

generally i see 3-6x be used more than the other options you have listed. personally i am on the slower side of 3-4x

The overflow I’m looking at, says it’s upto 75g which would be at but there is not way that’s more than like 3-3.5 turn over. But the next level up is a huge jump it’s like 300gph vs 800gph overflow choice

 

[Gtinnel]

I somewhat have to guesstimate mine because I don’t know how much I’m losing from head pressure, but I think I’m around the 5x range on my 125g.

 

[herozero]

I

Im trying to figure it out and I feel like I’m learning math

If you’re running one 1” siphon pipe, 900gph (or was it 600? I forget) in an overflow is all you’re going to get, a 1200gph pump will run dry before you actually push water at that rate. Design the overflow and pipes for the flow you want and the pump rating falls into place.

 

[Wasabiroot]

I know it might sound funny but your overflow and sump are ultimately going to determine your GPH not your return pump.

Definitely, and the type of valves you have as well. Didn't listen to advice and have a ball valve on my drain line into my sump. While I'm able to tune it close to my needs, I'm certain a gate valve would allow for better control

 

[ShanePike]

It's interesting. In December 2021, BRS (starting at the 9:25 mark of this video) suggested a flow rate of just 1X. That seemed really odd, but just a few hours later I saw a post from @Randy Holmes-Farley from almost six years ago where he said the same thing:

I don’t think the flow rate through the refugium is very important. IMO, 1x per h (24 x per day) is likely fine. There’s no evidence that high flow is useful, nor any theoretical reason that I have heard to think it is.

Flow in the refugium itself may be more important, but it need not be high.

 

[Reefer Matt Verified Media Partner]

I have no clue on all five of my tanks honestly. I focus more on total flow in the tank, not the turnover of the water. Plus as the pumps age and get crud in them, they pump less as well.

 

[NancyFish]

It's interesting. In December 2021, BRS (starting at the 9:25 mark of this video) suggested a flow rate of just 1X. That seemed really odd, but just a few hours later I saw a post from @Randy Holmes-Farley from almost six years ago where he said the same thing:

My heads spinning from different videos. I saw a few saying they like slower rates so the water can work with the media and protien skimmers better

 

[shakacuz]

The overflow I’m looking at, says it’s upto 75g which would be at but there is not way that’s more than like 3-3.5 turn over. But the next level up is a huge jump it’s like 300gph vs 800gph overflow choice

i have a 600gph overflow in a 40G tank. my return is slowed down enough to match the GPH and the drain has a ball valve which i can also control drain speed

don’t fully understand your point but you can size bigger and still make it work

 

[NancyFish]

It’s all very new to me, and I feel like I’m trying to learn one product after another. The valve sounds like a good choice so if I wanted more later then it’s adjustable. Rather a smaller one, that is maxed out

 

[X-37B]

2-3 is what I have used for years.
Imo, your skimmer is more efficeint with lower flow as you get more contact time.

 

[The_Paradox]

I think it depends a lot on if you run socks or filter media. Personally I do not and at much below a true (not bs advertised numbers) 5x I get too much settling in the sump and the skimmers collect almost nothing.

 

[00W]

I have 2 tanks on one sump, 110 total gallons of water and I run 200 gph through my sump.