How our fish are caught- VIDEO

[Andrews_aquarium]

Pretty interesting video on how our fish are caught in Indonesia, would love to hear people’s thoughts!

 

[Tahiti]

I've always wondered how they did that. Thanks for the post.

 

[Spare time]

I've stopped buying wild caught fish for the most part due to the impact it has on the animals and due to the sheer number that die on the way to a fish tank.

 

[Northern Flicker]

Very interesting. Thanks for posting.

 

[jrill]

Interesting watch. Heck of a way to make a living.

 

[jrill]

I've stopped buying wild caught fish for the most part due to the impact it has on the animals and due to the sheer number that die on the way to a fish tank.

That number has been greatly exaggerated by those trying to stop the industry.

 

[livinlifeinBKK]

Ok... didn't they say they were JUST certified as divers? 20 meters isn't very deep. That's great that they observed the way ONE of many crews carry out collection and handling but it isn't the same as the way others do. Yes, I actually know how some others do it. They aren't simply places into a plastic bag for one thing and left there on the boat for who knows how long...or at least you can't make this generalization. I have a friend who has an entire at sea holding facility and he's by no means affluent. Interesting to see how these particular collectors do their work but it isn't all (or likely near all of them) who work this way. It seems these newly certified divers may not understand how the diving itself works perhaps of they say they're spending 1-1.5 hours at 20 meters sharing one regulator. Just a few thoughts among others.

 

[Northern Flicker]

That number has been greatly exaggerated by those trying to stop the industry.

Disagree. I spent about 12 years working in a few different LFS', the amount of death is pretty absurd. Then you consider - how many survived being at the importer's holding location - how many survived the export process - how many survived the holding tanks - how many survived capture and transportation to the facility?

We love our hobby so we don't like to think about it but there are a lot of hidden costs to owning an aquarium, environmentally and to the individual animals.

 

[livinlifeinBKK]

Let's blame the collectors for these guys' personal observations of fewer fish than they expected in certain locations as well.

 

[Northern Flicker]

Let's blame the collectors for these guys' personal observations of fewer fish than they expected in certain locations as well.

Really hard to blame the collectors when you consider how rough their working conditions are. I imagine they are not making a lot, nor are they very affluent.

This site has a very loud anti-government intervention contingent, so it's risky even saying this, but environments like this can only really be protected by governments with the power and resources to do it. Maybe some kind of industry union could also work, but it's tough to police that.

Tough situation because I hate the idea of taking away jobs from people who are already making very little.

 

[livinlifeinBKK]

Really hard to blame the collectors when you consider how rough their working conditions are. I imagine they are not making a lot, nor are they very affluent.

This site has a very loud anti-government intervention contigengent, so it's risky even saying this, but environments like this can only really be protected by governments with the power and resources to do it. Tough situation because I hate the idea of taking away jobs from people who are already struggling.

I was being sarcastic. I highly doubt their collections of the amount of fish collected is having such an enormous impact (which these tourists seem to believe).

 

[sc50964]

Hope everyone can learn & do QT the right way, especially if you are buying from the wild, as doing so will maximize their survivability which means less space to get more.

 

[livinlifeinBKK]

Hope everyone can learn & do QT the right way, especially if you are buying from the wild, as doing so will maximize their survivability which means less space to get more.

QT for the sake of your fish, not to try to hurt these guys'living.

 

[sc50964]

Let's blame the collectors for these guys' personal observations of fewer fish than they expected in certain locations as well.

To me, there is a big difference between collectors and hobbyists. Collectors take fish keeping seriously.

 

[livinlifeinBKK]

To me, there is a big difference between collectors and hobbyists. Collectors take fish keeping seriously.

Agreed. Hobbyists will just buy another and claim they must've been caught with cyanide and that's why they died. Let's try another!

 

[sc50964]

Agreed. Hobbyists will just buy another and claim they must've been caught with cyanide and that's why they died. Let's try another!

Or blame the equipment

 

[sc50964]

Or blame the equipment

I hope there is a fish adoption agency like what they have for dogs and cats and there is at least one layer of check for readiness.

 

[Sisterlimonpot]

Disagree. I spent about 12 years working in a few different LFS', the amount of death is pretty absurd. Then you consider - how many survived being at the importer's holding location - how many survived the export process - how many survived the holding tanks - how many survived capture and transportation to the facility?

We love our hobby so we don't like to think about it but there are a lot of hidden costs to owning an aquarium, environmentally and to the individual animals.

I think that video is extremely bias, and we're forced to believe that what they're doing isn't sustainable. They're taking generalizations from the fishing arena and applying it to ornamental fish.

Yes, death does occur, but that's not the point of the video. Even with the low survival rate, this is still sustainable.

 

[livinlifeinBKK]

I think that video is extremely bias, and we're forced to believe that what they're doing isn't sustainable. They're taking generalizations from the fishing arena and applying it to ornamental fish.

Yes, death does occur, but that's not the point of the video. Even with the low survival rate, this is still sustainable.

Let's not forget that the few individuals who made the video seemed pretty unqualified to make the assumptions they made...perhaps using a person to translate instead of 'Google Translate would also help. Then again, I wouldn't be surprised if this was their first time visiting this side of the world. Not everything works the same or should work the same as wherever you may be from and see as the acceptable way to do things.

 

[Northern Flicker]

I think that video is extremely bias, and we're forced to believe that what they're doing isn't sustainable. They're taking generalizations from the fishing arena and applying it to ornamental fish.

Yes, death does occur, but that's not the point of the video. Even with the low survival rate, this is still sustainable.

I think the low survival rate is the part that will both some. Or at least I imagine it would, it bothers me. I do have a wild caught fish, though, and don’t judge others for it.