How to best treat in quarantine

Bthomas · Feb 28, 2019

I have a group of anthias in quarantine now but I'm wondering how best to plan my quarantine regimen for these and future quarantines. I want to keep my display disease free so I plan on treating with 30 days of copper plus prazi/metro but don't know if I should be aggressive and treat with all at once or do a couple weeks of prazi/metro and then start on copper or vice versa?

Are there certain fish that would be more sensitive to treating with all at once?

Frtdrmrose7 · Feb 28, 2019

Seeing you have Anthias you definitely want to watch for Uronema, as they and Chromis are common carriers. Here is a rock solid QT protocol that should help keep your DT parasite free.

https://www.reef2reef.com/threads/my-current-qt-process.483371/

ngoodermuth · Feb 28, 2019

I would suggest this as well ^^ most definitely food soak AND treat the water column with metroplex as a preemptive attack on uronema... that will be your biggest threat with anthias and it is NOT easy to get out of your DT if it gets in there.

Humblefish · Feb 28, 2019

I will just add that with certain anthias species you'll want to be sure they are eating first before raising copper. I just ran 3 Pseudanthias tuka thru QT, and they all stopped eating once the copper level hit 1.75. I dropped it back down to ~ 1.20 because they had internal uronema, and I needed to get them eating metro soaked food.

Bthomas · Feb 28, 2019

I havnt had a chance to read through that post yet but I will as soon as I can. I'm gonna go ahead and start prazi/metro tonight and, start ramping up copper as well.
I know it's recommended to double the package dosing instructions on metroplex for chromis with uronema, would this be the case here as well even if I'm using it at the same time as prazi?

ngoodermuth · Feb 28, 2019

The package directions are sort of vague... 1-2 measures per 10g. So, by "double" we mean use the higher dosage of 2 scoops. That's for an active infection, as a preventative without symptoms you could probably get away with the lower dosage. Just be prepared to bump it up if needed.

Frtdrmrose7 · Feb 28, 2019

ngoodermuth said:
The package directions are sort of vague... 1-2 measures per 10g. So, by "double" we mean use the higher dosage of 2 scoops. That's for an active infection, as a preventative without symptoms you could probably get away with the lower dosage. Just be prepared to bump it up if needed.

I think the double dosage should be used prophylacticaly to prevent an outbreak before it happens. Let’s see what the Uronema experts have to say. @HotRocks @4FordFamily

ngoodermuth · Feb 28, 2019

Frtdrmrose7 said:
I think the double dosage should be used prophylacticaly to prevent an outbreak before it happens. Let’s see what the Uronema experts have to say. @HotRocks @4FordFamily

It probably wouldn't hurt. I tend to avoid chromis and anthias because of the fact that they are finicky and take up too much bioload... so I might be a bit more conservative lol

4FordFamily · Feb 28, 2019

Frtdrmrose7 said:
I think the double dosage should be used prophylacticaly to prevent an outbreak before it happens. Let’s see what the Uronema experts have to say. @HotRocks @4FordFamily

Due to the fact that the meds aren't entirely pure anyway, and the face that you can -- I generally use double dose for known uronema.

ngoodermuth · Feb 28, 2019

4FordFamily said:
Due to the fact that the meds aren't entirely pure anyway, and the face that you can -- I generally use double dose for known uronema.

Do you still use the double dose if it's only preventative- no symptoms?

4FordFamily · Feb 28, 2019

ngoodermuth said:
Do you still use the double dose if it's only preventative- no symptoms?

It depends -- for chromis, angels, or anthias I would.

Bthomas · Feb 28, 2019

4FordFamily said:
It depends -- for chromis, angels, or anthias I would.

Thanks I'll do that then.

Bthomas · Feb 28, 2019

What are the risks of 30 days in copper? I don't have access to a second tank

Frtdrmrose7 · Feb 28, 2019

Bthomas said:
What are the risks of 30 days in copper? I don't have access to a second tank

If you can keep it at 1.75ppm with a Hanna the risks are very low.

Bthomas · Feb 28, 2019

One more question.. In the post above he talks about doing prazi/metro in the water after copper is removed. Is there any reason not to do that while treating with copper since I'm doing the 30 days

Humblefish · Feb 28, 2019

Bthomas said:
One more question.. In the post above he talks about doing prazi/metro in the water after copper is removed. Is there any reason not to do that while treating with copper since I'm doing the 30 days

Might increase appetite suppression on med sensitive fish, but it’s generally OK. Also, increase gas exchange to compensate for oxygen depletion.