How to black out glass refugium baffles?
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BigJohnny
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Wait, normal krylon fusion is reef safe? How can that be?
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If You Use Krylon Fusion Make Sure You Do a Couple Coats For Good Coverage May Help, May Be Mistaken But i Dont Think Krylon Fusion is Made For Glass!
If You Use Krylon Fusion Make Sure You Do a Couple Coats For Good Coverage May Help, May Be Mistaken But i Dont Think Krylon Fusion is Made For Glass!
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And Yes Krylon Fusion Paint Is Reef Safe Painted Some Pvc With It Zero problems.
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You painted pvc within a tank?
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Yes most spray paint sold in stores are safe to use. Krylon Fusion is the most popular and from my experience it tends to hold up better over the long run. I will say though glass is not the easiest thing to paint and will scratch off really easy. Not saying you cant paint it but just a warning as it will get dirty over time and cleaning it will probably scratch up the paint in short order
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I painted my skimmer plumbing with it. Yup it's safe after it fully dries and doesn't smell anymore.
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Eh that's questionable....most spray paint sold in stores is safe to submerge in a reef tank for an extended period of time without releasing toxic chemicals? I would venture to say only a select few are, but, maybe I'm wrong.
I wasn't planning on painting it I was looking for an alternative option like tinting but don't know if it holds up in sw.
I agree paint is not ideal on glass.
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Like, the outside of the plumbing? Is it constantly submerged and exposed to SW? The ol smell test eh? How precise lol[emoji12]
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Lol, yes fully submerged plumbing. And the smell test is quite scientific I assure you [emoji14]
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Yes the smell test is a scientific method to test to see if a paint is cured lol.
As far as paints sold in stores I work in environmental for a aircraft company the majority of our wastes is from the painting of aircraft. Most stores cant sell paints that will leach toxic chemicals into the environment over time. Reason is the EPA cant regulate the general public to dispose of toxic/hazardous chemicals properly but they can regulate companies from selling them to the general public. Thats why when buying actually toxic/hazardous paints you generally need a license to purchase them. Some states maybe different but most if not all dont sell them to the general public. With that being said these paints are sold for typical home use and not to be submerged in saltwater. Cheaper paints will break down over time when exposed to saltwater (I have had it happen) however I have never seen any negative effects. Using latex paint is obviously a bad idea as it will break down very rapidly. Krylon Fussion and the 2X the paint cans made by rustoleum I know hold up very well in saltwater as I use them myself. Still though not sure I would paint a glass baffle. However some acrylic baffles would be fine in my book.
As far as paints sold in stores I work in environmental for a aircraft company the majority of our wastes is from the painting of aircraft. Most stores cant sell paints that will leach toxic chemicals into the environment over time. Reason is the EPA cant regulate the general public to dispose of toxic/hazardous chemicals properly but they can regulate companies from selling them to the general public. Thats why when buying actually toxic/hazardous paints you generally need a license to purchase them. Some states maybe different but most if not all dont sell them to the general public. With that being said these paints are sold for typical home use and not to be submerged in saltwater. Cheaper paints will break down over time when exposed to saltwater (I have had it happen) however I have never seen any negative effects. Using latex paint is obviously a bad idea as it will break down very rapidly. Krylon Fussion and the 2X the paint cans made by rustoleum I know hold up very well in saltwater as I use them myself. Still though not sure I would paint a glass baffle. However some acrylic baffles would be fine in my book.
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Quote from krylon:
"Thank you for contacting Krylon.
Unfortunately, we do not recommend any of our products to be applied below the water line. None of our products are immersion-rated or waterproof. Our products may last for a time under water, but there is no guarantee as to how long the will hold up.
Additionally, we have nothing that is FDA approved, which is important in terms of ingestion. Our products may harm the aquarium life.
I wish you the best of success with your search for a compatible product. Please let me know if you have additional questions.
Regards,
Daniel
Krylon Product Support"
"Thank you for contacting Krylon.
Unfortunately, we do not recommend any of our products to be applied below the water line. None of our products are immersion-rated or waterproof. Our products may last for a time under water, but there is no guarantee as to how long the will hold up.
Additionally, we have nothing that is FDA approved, which is important in terms of ingestion. Our products may harm the aquarium life.
I wish you the best of success with your search for a compatible product. Please let me know if you have additional questions.
Regards,
Daniel
Krylon Product Support"
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Good to know but I would have never imagined it would be safe. You would think the paint would start cracking and peeling pretty quickly in saltwater?
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Same but many people said it was! Doesn't mean it can't be but after reading that it's definitely not a risk I'm willing to take.
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I work as an air quality specialist and the fact that I recognized so many compounds from the labels of the spray paints you find at Lowes\Home Depot has me terrified of putting any of that stuff anywhere near my tank! I used spray paints for my tank build, but I would never put any object sprayed with it into the water, those chemicals can be nasty. I would just build baffles out of black PVC sheets or glue thin black sheets to the glass baffles if that's what you have.
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The krylon paints are only volatile while wet. Once dry it's whatever they can be broken down to to cause possible leaching. I'll stick with my "smell test" [emoji14] I'm not forcing anyone else to trust it but I do.
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I've never painted below the waterline but did paint my current frame with krylon fusion. Just to throw it out there - I am a year out from painting and the paint is disappearing from the plastic in most places water has touched.
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Window tint would not work for the long run. And it could very well leach chemicals into the water column too.
In my opinion,I would either leave the glass clear for easy cleaning or use a black acrylic and use some black E6000 to adhere it too the glass sump.
Cheers,
Alex
In my opinion,I would either leave the glass clear for easy cleaning or use a black acrylic and use some black E6000 to adhere it too the glass sump.
Cheers,
Alex
