how to fix cyano with af ?

[David Cher]

how to fix cyano with af ?

any idea ?

 

[Ubergroover]

Cyano is a tricky enemy. I am an AF user, and I never beat it using any AF product. You need to find the root cause. Read all you can about what causes Cyano and try to apply it to your tank. In my case it was Bad RO water (to much PO4) and bad lighting parameters. Your tank may be totally different. got any pics? Do you know your water levels? Do you have GHA? New tank, old tank?

 

[Perry]

I have to agree with @Ubergroover
Cyano can be from many issues, so it is not just as easy as using products to fix. That said, knowing that your relationship of nutrients(Redfield Ratio), are not out of whack. Meaning for example, zero nitrates, but higher than normal phosphates, or the reverse. This could be from contamination, aresols, carpet cleaners, or other foreign cross contamination. I have had it come on when it was close to time to changing out t5 or halide bulbs. Bacteria dosing can help, as it would try to compete with cyano for nutrients, but typically carbon dosing during a cyano outbreak is an issue and simply fuels cyano growth. AF Build, Bio S, Pro Bio S, and Life Force may help, and perhaps GAC. If worse comes to worse, I have run Boyd's Cyano Remover without any ill effects, even when running Probiotic Method. I personally feel that there is likely an underlying issue to discover, always best to find root source. A strong clean up crew may also be worth looking at, they tend to finish off uneaten foods the fish don't get to, so something to review. Cheers

 

[Ubergroover]

I have to agree with @Ubergroover
Cyano can be from many issues, so it is not just as easy as using products to fix. That said, knowing that your relationship of nutrients(Redfield Ratio), are not out of whack. Meaning for example, zero nitrates, but higher than normal phosphates, or the reverse. This could be from contamination, aresols, carpet cleaners, or other foreign cross contamination. I have had it come on when it was close to time to changing out t5 or halide bulbs. Bacteria dosing can help, as it would try to compete with cyano for nutrients, but typically carbon dosing during a cyano outbreak is an issue and simply fuels cyano growth. AF Build, Bio S, Pro Bio S, and Life Force may help, and perhaps GAC. If worse comes to worse, I have run Boyd's Cyano Remover without any ill effects, even when running Probiotic Method. I personally feel that there is likely an underlying issue to discover, always best to find root source. A strong clean up crew may also be worth looking at, they tend to finish off uneaten foods the fish don't get to, so something to review. Cheers

after I finally eliminated cyano and other algae, the pro bio s, and other products you mentioned work very well...in moderation.

 

[scottrotton]

I have to agree with @Ubergroover
Cyano can be from many issues, so it is not just as easy as using products to fix. That said, knowing that your relationship of nutrients(Redfield Ratio), are not out of whack. Meaning for example, zero nitrates, but higher than normal phosphates, or the reverse. This could be from contamination, aresols, carpet cleaners, or other foreign cross contamination. I have had it come on when it was close to time to changing out t5 or halide bulbs. Bacteria dosing can help, as it would try to compete with cyano for nutrients, but typically carbon dosing during a cyano outbreak is an issue and simply fuels cyano growth. AF Build, Bio S, Pro Bio S, and Life Force may help, and perhaps GAC. If worse comes to worse, I have run Boyd's Cyano Remover without any ill effects, even when running Probiotic Method. I personally feel that there is likely an underlying issue to discover, always best to find root source. A strong clean up crew may also be worth looking at, they tend to finish off uneaten foods the fish don't get to, so something to review. Cheers

I have read contradicting info regarding the red field ratio. Some are saying its the uptake of nutrients only, others are saying the should be found in the correct ratio to avoid types of algae, ive been running a reef tank for 4 years and never had them in the correct ratio

My tank is no where near show caliber but haven't had a major algae outbreak for a few years, even though my phos went all the way up to 0.3 last week. Nitrates are always very low around 0-3ppm

 

[Perry]

I would think of the Probiotic program as a means to further reduce nutrients. This program still requires the aquarium to run proper, as if no products were needed to employ, a program designed to elevate the conditions. That said, proper requirements must be met in order to have a thriving reef, so if the basics are not being met, we must look deeper into our systems to discover where the "real" problem lies. Sometimes it is easy to overlook a dwindling CUC, or lack of micro-life, proper skimming, proper feeding,maintenance, testing, and most importantly observation. It is my belief that if the nuisance algaes are present, in most cases, we are only fueling the problem by dosing products, so during these times, I like to throttle back on dosing, do a larger than normal water change/ along side of manual algae removal. I then clean the sump/filtration area, as well as cleaning pumps and skimmer. This is usually enough to break the cycle of these algaes. Cheers