How to?...from QT with copper to DT...

[Congaken]

This Thursday Chucky, the chalk bass will have been in QT with Cupramine for 14 days...it is the day that I plan to move him to DT...considering that salinity, temp., etc is the same in both tanks, how should I move him out of the copper...perhaps put him in a bowl with clean tank water and than move him to DT...or just put him in?...The copper level has stayed at 3.5ppm consistently...Thanks for helping me with this...Go Chucky!

 

[Shep]

@Humblefish will know and probably have links

 

[Humblefish]

You can just add Chucky directly in, as the Cu residuals found on his body and the net are minuscule (traces of copper are present in natural seawater). However, I would treat with copper for 4 weeks if you are wanting to eradicate ich. 2 weeks is only sufficient for velvet.

 

[Congaken]

You can just add Chucky directly in, as the Cu residuals found on his body and the net are minuscule (traces of copper are present in natural seawater). However, I would treat with copper for 4 weeks if you are wanting to eradicate ich. 2 weeks is only sufficient for velvet.

Thanks for your help...if you recall, there was scant evidence that he had ich...the spot fell off the first day in QT...so I was never really curing, also I believe that you said 14 days would take me though any ich cycle especially since there was scant evidence in the first place...anyhow, Chucky has been in QT since 2/2 and in copper since 2/12...eating great, no sign of anything...I agree with an abundance of caution, but under these conditions, is it a huge risk?...I guess I really want him in DT, but tell me if I'm being fool- hardy...Thanks...Ken

 

[Humblefish]

Thanks for your help...if you recall, there was scant evidence that he had ich...the spot fell off the first day in QT...so I was never really curing, also I believe that you said 14 days would take me though any ich cycle especially since there was scant evidence in the first place...anyhow, Chucky has been in QT since 2/2 and in copper since 2/12...eating great, no sign of anything...I agree with an abundance of caution, but under these conditions, is it a huge risk?...I guess I really want him in DT, but tell me if I'm being fool- hardy...Thanks...Ken

IF copper has been kept at therapeutic levels (very important) for 14 consecutive days, then you should be good to go. The only way to ensure this is to test the copper level daily. 30 days treatment is more practical and what I still recommend, to take into account human error. It just gives you more leeway.

It is also extremely important that you do not lower the Cu level before transferring the fish into the DT, if treating for less than 4 weeks.

 

[Congaken]

IF copper has been kept at therapeutic levels (very important) for 14 consecutive days, then you should be good to go. The only way to ensure this is to test the copper level daily. 30 days treatment is more practical and what I still recommend, to take into account human error. It just gives you more leeway.

I checked every day...3.5 to 4.0...

 

[Humblefish]

I checked every day...3.5 to 4.0...

What brand of copper are you using (I forget)? No copper has that high of a therapeutic range. The highest is Copper Power, which is 2.5 ppm.

 

[Congaken]

What brand of copper are you using (I forget)? No copper has that high of a therapeutic range. The highest is Copper Power, which is 2.5 ppm.

 

[Congaken]

Sea Chem Cupramine...sorry, it was .35-.40 mg/l...

 

[Humblefish]

Sea Chem Cupramine...sorry, it was .35-.40 mg/l...

IF Cupramine was maintained @ ≥0.35 for 2 weeks then you should be fine. Just understand this approach allows for no human error or wiggle room. Which is why I still generally recommend 4 weeks.

 

[Congaken]

IF Cupramine was maintained @ ≥0.35 for 2 weeks then you should be fine. Just understand this approach allows for no human error or wiggle room. Which is why I still generally recommend 4 weeks.

I checked it every single day...in the beginning added an extra drop when it went to .30...I may f--- up, but I have been on top of Chucky's copper and everything else like a mad man...who else names their fish "Chucky" or "Benny the Blennie" or "Jack Blennie"?...

 

[Humblefish]

I checked it every single day...in the beginning added an extra drop when it went to .30...I may f--- up, but I have been on top of Chucky's copper and everything else like a mad man...who else names their fish "Chucky" or "Benny the Blennie" or "Jack Blennie"?...

Oh, I hear ya. I'm super OCD about my QTs and actually only treat (with CP & prazi/metro) for 10 days before transferring (big article about that coming soon. ) But I know myself. I have a checklist of every little thing I need to do, triple check it, wife checks it, etc. before the fish is transferred into an observation QT. But not everyone is wired like that, so allowances needed to be made. Margin for error. This was/is the thought behind the 30 day treatment period.

 

[Congaken]

Oh, I hear ya. I'm super OCD about my QTs and actually only treat (with CP & prazi/metro) for 10 days before transferring (big article about that coming soon. ) But I know myself. I have a checklist of every little thing I need to do, triple check it, wife checks it, etc. before the fish is transferred into an observation QT. But not everyone is wired like that, so allowances needed to be made. Margin for error. This was/is the thought behind the 30 day treatment period.

Thanks for all of your great advise...I'll keep you posted...my next problem is integrating Chuck into the tank with my blennie and (big mistake) yellow tail damsel...I'll use a livebearer isolation thing for a few days and than see how it goes...

 

[Humblefish]

Thanks for all of your great advise...I'll keep you posted...my next problem is integrating Chuck into the tank with my blennie and (big mistake) yellow tail damsel...I'll use a livebearer isolation thing for a few days and than see how it goes...

Yeah, the yellow tail might be a problem.