How to Quarantine

64Ivy · Mar 24, 2017

Thanks again. Now for something a little different; does anyone know where I can find a reef-safe container for a). the occasional freshwater dipping of new or sick fish and b). the temporary housing of fish while I'm sterilizing their QT tank. Preferably dark so I can see what falls off the fish during the dip. Sorry to side track this thread for something so mundane.

Congaken · Mar 24, 2017

64Ivy said:
Thanks again. Now for something a little different; does anyone know where I can find a reef-safe container for a). the occasional freshwater dipping of new or sick fish and b). the temporary housing of fish while I'm sterilizing their QT tank. Preferably dark so I can see what falls off the fish during the dip. Sorry to side track this thread for something so mundane.

a decent plastic pail...dark with cover...

Humblefish · Mar 24, 2017

Congaken said:
a decent plastic pail...dark with cover...

+1 A black or dark blue 5 gallon bucket is ideal as well.

Congaken · Mar 24, 2017

Humblefish said:
+1 A black or dark blue 5 gallon bucket is ideal as well.

sort of what I meant...

64Ivy · Mar 25, 2017

I guess I should've put more emphasis on 'reef-safe'. Are we talking just any old Home Depot/Hardware store dark bucket or is there a food grade industry standard (i.e. Rubbermaid Brute) bucket out there that everyone uses? Concerned about leaching phosphates. Warranted? TIA.

Humblefish · Mar 25, 2017

64Ivy said:
I guess I should've put more emphasis on 'reef-safe'. Are we talking just any old Home Depot/Hardware store dark bucket or is there a food grade industry standard (i.e. Rubbermaid Brute) bucket out there that everyone uses? Concerned about leaching phosphates. Warranted? TIA.

I've always just used any ol' plastic bucket (Home Depot, Lowe's), but I clean it out first with vinegar. If you can find a "food grade" bucket, that would be ideal.

TC3 · Apr 3, 2017

I found this spot on yellow tang today. Can you please help me identify what this is?

Congaken · Apr 3, 2017

TC3 said:
I found this spot on yellow tang today. Can you please help me identify what this is?

check out the fish disease index...red spot could be uremia marinum...the index has ID and treatments...

melypr1985 · Apr 3, 2017

TC3 said:
I found this spot on yellow tang today. Can you please help me identify what this is?

While tangs are not usually prone to uronema, it can happen. It's most likely a bacterial infection or internal bleeding. If it's internal bleeding I dont know anything you can do for that... the infection would be easier to treat with antibiotics like kanaplex or furan2 or both together.

TC3 · Apr 3, 2017

@Congaken - Thanks.

I actually did go to Meredith's ID page but didn't even realized that it could be uremia marinum cause of the shape. I hope that's not what it is.

Darn, I was about to move him out of QT and move him in to the DT.

TC3 · Apr 3, 2017

@melypr1985 - Thanks.

Unfortunately, I don't have those meds on hands. I just gave him a fresh water dip not too long ago. I hope it's just a bacterial infection and nothing more serious than that. I'll go online to find those meds. Hopefully he'll survive until then.

melypr1985 · Apr 3, 2017

TC3 said:
@melypr1985 - Thanks.

Unfortunately, I don't have those meds on hands. I just gave him a fresh water dip not too long ago. I hope it's just a bacterial infection and nothing more serious than that. I'll go online to find those meds. Hopefully he'll survive until then.

Actually bacterial infections are my least favorite thing to have to treat. They can be tricky. The gram negative bacteria can kill faster than velvet and you dont even realize something is wrong until it's too late to treat.

TC3 · Apr 3, 2017

I remember reading that part now about the bacterial infection. I was only think about the uronema being introduced to the tank and never getting rid of it.

Congaken · Apr 4, 2017

melypr1985 said:
While tangs are not usually prone to uronema, it can happen. It's most likely a bacterial infection or internal bleeding. If it's internal bleeding I dont know anything you can do for that... the infection would be easier to treat with antibiotics like kanaplex or furan2 or both together.

Had one like that on a bf...used Focus to bind Metorplex to food...took two days or so...

TC3 · Apr 4, 2017

Yellow tang is gone.

The lyretail seems to be affected too.

Humblefish · Apr 4, 2017

melypr1985 said:
Actually bacterial infections are my least favorite thing to have to treat. They can be tricky. The gram negative bacteria can kill faster than velvet and you dont even realize something is wrong until it's too late to treat.

+1 Bacterial infections are a nightmare because there are so many different strains and without a scope ID, you have to just hope the antibiotic you are using effectively targets the offending bacterium.

TC3 said:
Yellow tang is gone.

The lyretail seems to be affected too.

You need to move FAST before this spirals out of control. Kanaplex + Furan-2 + Metroplex would be the best option at this point. A 90 min acriflavine bath (ex. Ruby Reef Rally) might help to slow it down.

TC3 · Apr 4, 2017

@Humblefish - Thanks

I just placed an order for all meds you had mentioned. I went ahead and added Focus to the list as well.

Do I just follow the instructions on the packages?

VJV · Apr 4, 2017

My experience (limited) thus far with Metro and Kanaplex + focus is that the fish will not even look at it... I have added garlic to make it more palatable but even than they would just walk away. Curious to know others' experiences and tricks to get them to eat it.

Humblefish · Apr 4, 2017

TC3 said:
Do I just follow the instructions on the packages?

Yes; dose all medications concurrently.

VJV said:
My experience (limited) thus far with Metro and Kanaplex + focus is that the fish will not even look at it... I have added garlic to make it more palatable but even than they would just walk away. Curious to know others' experiences and tricks to get them to eat it.

I haven't had much trouble getting most fish to eat it. Seachem also sells a product called "Entice" which is supposed to enhance palatability. A LFS I advise swears by it to get MI and finicky butterflies to eat.

Congaken · Apr 4, 2017

VJV said:
My experience (limited) thus far with Metro and Kanaplex + focus is that the fish will not even look at it... I have added garlic to make it more palatable but even than they would just walk away. Curious to know others' experiences and tricks to get them to eat it.

All my fish ate it like nothing flat...if you mix it with food they like, should be no problem...