How to Quarantine

Humblefish · Apr 24, 2017

Crashjack said:
Have you ever tested to see how much effect plastic might have? I'm planning to use Sterilite containers as my QT tanks. They are cheap, which is great, but with my physical handicap they will be soooo much easier to setup, take down, sanitize, etc. Plus, they already have lids. I'm less worried about copper because I can test for that. Maybe I should start with a little higher dose of CP when quarantining with CP?

I've dosed copper into "Sterilite QTs" and absorption was moderate. I'd say if you dosed CP @ 60mg/gal you should be OK.

Crashjack · Apr 25, 2017

Humblefish said:
I've dosed copper into "Sterilite QTs" and absorption was moderate. I'd say if you dosed CP @ 60mg/gal you should be OK.

Good info. I'll up the CP dosage.

Smo · May 1, 2017

I obtained some macro algae from a fellow reefer. His fish look really healthy but I suspect he may be an Ich manager vs. an Ich eradicator. I understand Ich tomonts won't attach to the algae and if it were algae alone I would be OK after two days or so, but what about copepods that appear to be in the algae? Do they have a hard shell that Ich tomonts can encyst on? In other words, do I need to quarantine the algae and pods for 76 days? I currently have it in a 5 G bucket with an airstone for circulation and 5K LED light. And yes, greater than 10' away from the nearest tank.

melypr1985 · May 1, 2017

Smo said:
I obtained some macro algae from a fellow reefer. His fish look really healthy but I suspect he may be an Ich manager vs. an Ich eradicator. I understand Ich tomonts won't attach to the algae and if it were algae alone I would be OK after two days or so, but what about copepods that appear to be in the algae? Do they have a hard shell that Ich tomonts can encyst on? In other words, do I need to quarantine the algae and pods for 76 days? I currently have it in a 5 G bucket with an airstone for circulation and 5K LED light. And yes, greater than 10' away from the nearest tank.

i would probably give the macro a good rinse, which should get rid of the pods in it (might take a thorough shaking too). Pour the pods in the invert QT and put the algae in the display. If you are paranoid about not getting them all off, then put the whole thing in the QT. Pods do have an exoskeleton, to answer your question so theoretically ich can encyst on them.

Smo · May 1, 2017

melypr1985 said:
i would probably give the macro a good rinse, which should get rid of the pods in it (might take a thorough shaking too). Pour the pods in the invert QT and put the algae in the display. If you are paranoid about not getting them all off, then put the whole thing in the QT. Pods do have an exoskeleton, to answer your question so theoretically ich can encyst on them.

Thanks for the quick reply! Not paranoid--just risk adverse when it comes to potential ICH contamination. Into a QT it goes.

Hemlawk · May 6, 2017

I'm new to the hobby. I didn't quarantine my fish. I've had my clowns for about 1 month and today they are showing signs of ick.
I'm going to Petco to start a hospital tank.
My question is, should I freshwater dip them before treating them in the hospital tank?

Brew12 · May 6, 2017

Hemlawk said:
I'm new to the hobby. I didn't quarantine my fish. I've had my clowns for about 1 month and today they are showing signs of ick.
I'm going to Petco to start a hospital tank.
My question is, should I freshwater dip them before treating them in the hospital tank?

If you are sure it is Ich then I wouldn't bother with the dip. Just get them into the HT and start raising copper to therapeutic levels when you can.

melypr1985 · May 6, 2017

Brew12 said:
If you are sure it is Ich then I wouldn't bother with the dip. Just get them into the HT and start raising copper to therapeutic levels when you can.

agreed

Hemlawk · May 6, 2017

Thx guys. Petco doesnt have cooper so I ordered it from Amazon. Im treating them now with ICH-X.

Humblefish · May 6, 2017

@Hemlawk If you can, post photos of your clownfish so we can help determine if this is ich, velvet, brook, etc.

Hemlawk · May 6, 2017

Its hard to tell because I think we caught it fast. The one clown came to the surface of the DT and some of his skin shed off into an orange cloud.

Humblefish · May 6, 2017

Shedding makes me think it could be brook: https://www.reef2reef.com/threads/brooklynella.247938/

Hemlawk · May 6, 2017

Thanks, I appreciate it. They are currently in a QT treated with Ich-X, I also gave them a 2 minute freshwater dip before that.
I also have a 6 Line wrasse and Watchman goby in the DT. I can't catch them without taking out my aquascape. I may do that tomorrow....

JBslick81 · May 7, 2017

I ordered some fish on liveaquaria.comn after 2 days one clown wasn't doing very well and died. Also a blue hippo has a bit of a swollen eye with a white spot in it. I soaked their food with garlic power. The swelling went down and things were good for a couple weeks.

I recently noticed my flame angel from the same online order has a very cloudy and puffy eye. And the blue hippo has white spots on both eyes but no swelling.

I plan to get a qt setup soon. But need to cycle the water. I'm afraid the angels eye is going to burst if I don't do something quick.

What should my plan of action be?

I found a 30gallon long tank with HOB filer on Craigslist for 50 bucks. Should I sterilize it first.

I'm thinking it could be flukes but that doesn't explain the swelling.

I'm flying blind here. Any advice will help a lot. Thanks.

JBslick81 · May 7, 2017

Also I thought I should add my DT was without fish for 2 years before I made the online order.

Hemlawk · May 7, 2017

Can anyone verify if this is brook? This is 24 hours after Ich-X treatment. I think I caught it early.
They are breathing fast and the other Clown is swimming upside down. sometimes.

Brew12 · May 7, 2017

JBslick81 said:
I ordered some fish on liveaquaria.comn after 2 days one clown wasn't doing very well and died. Also a blue hippo has a bit of a swollen eye with a white spot in it. I soaked their food with garlic power. The swelling went down and things were good for a couple weeks.

I recently noticed my flame angel from the same online order has a very cloudy and puffy eye. And the blue hippo has white spots on both eyes but no swelling.

I plan to get a qt setup soon. But need to cycle the water. I'm afraid the angels eye is going to burst if I don't do something quick.

What should my plan of action be?

I found a 30gallon long tank with HOB filer on Craigslist for 50 bucks. Should I sterilize it first.

I'm thinking it could be flukes but that doesn't explain the swelling.

I'm flying blind here. Any advice will help a lot. Thanks.

It could be flukes with a secondary infection. I would do a fresh water dip ASAP to provide the fish some relief until you can get it treated properly.

Brew12 · May 7, 2017

Hemlawk said:
Can anyone verify if this is brook? This is 24 hours after Ich-X treatment. I think I caught it early.
They are breathing fast and the other Clown is swimming upside down. sometimes.

Unfortunately, I think it is.

melypr1985 · May 7, 2017

JBslick81 said:
I ordered some fish on liveaquaria.comn after 2 days one clown wasn't doing very well and died. Also a blue hippo has a bit of a swollen eye with a white spot in it. I soaked their food with garlic power. The swelling went down and things were good for a couple weeks.

I recently noticed my flame angel from the same online order has a very cloudy and puffy eye. And the blue hippo has white spots on both eyes but no swelling.

I plan to get a qt setup soon. But need to cycle the water. I'm afraid the angels eye is going to burst if I don't do something quick.

What should my plan of action be?

I found a 30gallon long tank with HOB filer on Craigslist for 50 bucks. Should I sterilize it first.

I'm thinking it could be flukes but that doesn't explain the swelling.

I'm flying blind here. Any advice will help a lot. Thanks.

yes. Sterilize the Qt before using it. You'll want to do a freshwater dip to confirm flukes. If it comes up positive then you'll treat the entire display wtih prazipro. After 24 hours, do a water change and move the angel into QT to start treating with erythromycin for the eye infection. The infection is likely secondary to whatever parasite it has. If flukes is negative then you'll want to get all the fish into the QT for treatment wtih copper since the next most likely cause is ich/velvet.