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I got my new top down port from Avast Marine Works today and thought I would give it a try.

Out of 11 total snaps these are what I came up with, I usually have to take 100 just to get a few even close to this nice.

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wow...nice pics!! No wonder that port sold out that fast..
 
I would have gotten more but my tank looks bad, I've been neglecting it while doing all the prep for my upgrade.
 
I've been most curious about this product, though I'm still afraid of forgetting I have a lens in the water, swamping it, and ruining the lens. I'm assuming you hand held the camera for these shots? There appears to be some camera movement. I also think I'm seeing some distortion, resulting from the acrylic "lens" of the "port." I would be curious to see a shot with the flow completely off and the camera on a tripod to see if the port is distorting the image. I would hope the product could deliver tack-sharp images. Nice work nonetheless and your animals look quite nice.
Gary
 
You are correct Gary, I was holding the camera. Also I think I need to cover the camera with a towel to keep any reflection from the lights from entering the port hole. I took these pic's in a hurry, probably took less than 2 min to snap them.
 
Doesn't the lens face butt against the acrylic of the porthole? If not, agreed that reflections from lights are going to be a problem. If you have to cover the camera with a towel, that introduces a huge risk of the towel getting in the water.
Gary
 
Here you go Gary: AVAST Marine Works - Top-Down Porthole - Product Details

When I took mine, I didn't put the lens all the way into butt against the acrylic. My acrylic was quickly scratched just by removing smudges from when I got it, but I don't think it caused any problems.

On a side note, I did exactly what you said, and got water inside the porthole. It wasn't enough to touch the lens though. You can easily keep the lens higher in the porthole to help prevent such occurances.
 
I did the same and got some water in mine, not enough to do anything but it definitely made me aware of the danger. I also smudged my lens just by cleaning it with toilet paper.

When I took the pic's the lens was about 3" from the acrylic.
 
Gary, I simply screwed the plastic screws down onto the part of the lens that turns for focusing, so all I had to do to focus was turn the porthole...which in turn, turned the lens.
 
BTK, Excellent. That eliminates one concern.

That acrylic front lens seems very delicate. I like the idea, much more so than a photo box, but I have to have sharp fine detail and when Skinz says he smudged the lens with toilet paper, that suggests it's not true optical quality. Though toilet paper wouldn't be my first choice for cleaning an optical surface. ;) I ask these questions and have concerns about the product, but have to say that Skinz's shots suggest that the device has the potential to deliver what I'm looking for. For handheld shots, in water, hanging over an aquarium edge, they're pretty good.

Gary
 
Thanks NanoNano!

Gary what do you recommend for cleaning the lens?

All in all I don't think you will be dissapointed if you purchased one of these, although I would recommend getting the deeper model as I am worried about swamping my camera in this one.
 
Skinz,

Hard to say because I don't know what material they use, but I'd definitely try lens papers for cleaning camera lenses or a microfiber cloth. Toilet paper and Kleenex, in relative terms, are relatively harsh materials. The fact that toilet paper altered the surface indicates to me that it's a very soft material. Soft, to me, means potential light distortion and that it is easily affected by temperature changes. Please understand that I'm a bit on the picky side when it comes to this stuff, and maybe excessively so.

When you do this kind of photography, many things work against getting a tack-sharp image, primarily water distortion and aquarium glass/acrylic, if you're shooting through the side. When shooting top-down, you eliminate the aquarium glass/acrylic as a factor, but must deal with water movement/distortion at the surface and throughout the column, even when the flow is off. Adding this device re-introduces that aquarium glass/acrylic factor. Shooting with the camera above the water and eliminating light reflections can be done without putting the front of the lens below the surface. When I shoot top-down shots, example below, I strive for what I call the "dry look," i.e., I want the shot tack sharp so you can see as much detail as possible and no indication that I'm shooting through a column of water.

Don't get me wrong. This seems to be a better solution than photo boxes. In addition to my concern about swamping the camera/lens, those photo boxes are just one more thing to hold steady in a situation where eliminating all motion is a monumental challenge. The Avast product eliminates the extra-thing-to-hold factor, and being able to attach it to the focus ring so manual focus is possible is a huge plus. I'm tempted to try the Avast device but, if the acrylic is that easily damaged, it is problematic for heavy/long-term use.

That's probably more than you wanted, but it's an interesting discussion for me. Thanks for your tolerance.

Gary

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