I’m getting a Moorish Idol tomorrow

[theMeat]

Plenty of threads on qt vs no qt

 

[JasonK84]

Plenty of threads on qt vs no qt

Completely agree and my question to @tehmadreefer, which has already been answered, came from the comment that “QT was crap”. I only wanted to know what their individual reason for their belief was. Again, I didn’t bring it up and realize it’s a polarizing topic with many threads and the same people on each side advocating their beliefs. I do what I do because I’ve found what has worked best for me so far. You do you and I’ll do me is how I see it.

 

[S2G]

I've got a queston. How come idols have to have sponge?

I remember the same issue with angels yrs ago and everyone said sponge. Now that seems to have passed with plenty of big Angel's that have never tasted sponge

 

[JasonK84]

I've got a queston. How come idols have to have sponge?

I remember the same issue with angels yrs ago and everyone said sponge. Now that seems to have passed with plenty of big Angel's that have never tasted sponge

Some angels have lower success rates than others and it’s been said that lack of sponge is the reason. Some angels seam to do fine without it while others do not. Rock beauty being an angel that comes to mind. Also, there are now options for feeding sponge that have not always been available to the masses.

 

[jsvand5]

If you’d ship it I’d sure take it! I hear they do better in multiples. Hopefully I can get mine eating as well as yours is. Maybe I need yours to teach mine?

That’s actually not true. At least not in aquariums. Singles are best unless your tank is massive.

 

[JasonK84]

I've got a queston. How come idols have to have sponge?

I remember the same issue with angels yrs ago and everyone said sponge. Now that seems to have passed with plenty of big Angel's that have never tasted sponge

I’ve got a Koran that is doing great. QT’d with my PBT and has grown quite nicely. Won’t be long before I’ll need to re-home and start with another juvenile angel. Maybe another year or so. Of course it’s not one known to be difficult or must have sponge but it gets it anyway. It also loves NLS pellets even though I rarely feed them.
Same fish in each photo:

 

[S2G]

Some angels have lower success rates than others and it’s been said that lack of sponge is the reason. Some angels seam to do fine without it while others do not. Rock beauty being an angel that comes to mind. Also, there are now options for feeding sponge that have not always been available to the masses.

I think that's just marketing. I hope I dont eat my words but I know plenty of large Angel's raised without sponge. I had a big blueface and a friend had a queen. As long as you provide a quality food like say lrs and nls I think your fine. If it can be done with Angel's then I dont see why it cant be done with idols. Well besides feeding high protein to fish not designed for it

 

[Feet4Fish]

While we are on the sponge topic....what are some of my big angel folks opinions on Angel Elixir by Brightwell?

I think that's just marketing. I hope I dont eat my words but I know plenty of large Angel's raised without sponge. I had a big blueface and a friend had a queen. As long as you provide a quality food like say lrs and nls I think your fine. If it can be done with Angel's then I dont see why it cant be done with idols. Well besides feeding high protein to fish not designed for it

 

[Terri Caton]

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Fish will not always have ich! It’s been proven By the many that QT (and do it right). I recently had a Harlequin Tusk pass (2 weeks ago yesterday) and I took it in for a necropsy just to confirm there were no parasites or something I missed.
Here is the thread on that but I’ll also include the final report from the Vet who did the necropsy in case you’re not interested in going through that thread. It’s a doozy if you ask me and several others that have stumbled across it!

Any mail in necropsy services for hobbyists?

I had a Harlequin Tusk pass about an hour ago while in my hand. It quit eating with vigor about 2 to 3 weeks ago and about a week ago completely quit eating. Tried many different foods. Came home today he wasn’t acting normal. Very weak and I easily net him from where it was resting on the...

www.reef2reef.com

That’s super interesting. I saw your thread looking for a necropsy service. Glad you found one.

My Anthias didn’t die from Ich. None of my fish did. Something exploded out of its head. Really. Here’s a pic.

I focus on their immune system and they come through it all. Except for the exploding head of course.

Jason, I guess if they do best in multiples you’ll need go get it some companions! You could become like the getting Moorish Idols to eat whisperer. Lol

 

[theMeat]

I've got a queston. How come idols have to have sponge?

I remember the same issue with angels yrs ago and everyone said sponge. Now that seems to have passed with plenty of big Angel's that have never tasted sponge

Don’t know idols have to have sponge as a fact. Just sharing my experience.
As far as angels, think available foods have come a long way. Think that’s part of the big boost in this hobby’s success. Would think most people with angels feed angel preparations which most have sponge in it, and don’t even realize. Would guess if you feed a quality freshly prepared, not frozen to death food like lfs or rods that sponge may become less important. Would think sponge becomes more or less vital depending on type of angel and it’s age.

 

[ZanclusKeeper]

I have never fed any of my idols sponges, only a variety of pellet food. I had one for 3 years before I sold it to someone with a larger tank. I think the most important part is treating them for disease.

Good luck, my 2 cents....

 

[S2G]

I have never fed any of my idols sponges, only a variety of pellet food. I had one for 3 years before I sold it to someone with a larger tank. I think the most important part is treating them for disease.

Good luck, my 2 cents....

Very nice

 

[JasonK84]

I have never fed any of my idols sponges, only a variety of pellet food. I had one for 3 years before I sold it to someone with a larger tank. I think the most important part is treating them for disease.

Good luck, my 2 cents....

Love the pair just going at it. Do you find they do better when there are multiples?

 

[ZanclusKeeper]

Love the pair just going at it. Do you find they do better when there are multiples?

Actually one started to bully the other. I have never been able to get a pair or a trio to stay together for long.
So in my experience single is best!

 

[guysmiley]

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That’s super interesting. I saw your thread looking for a necropsy service. Glad you found one.

My Anthias didn’t die from Ich. None of my fish did. Something exploded out of its head. Really. Here’s a pic.

I focus on their immune system and they come through it all. Except for the exploding head of course.

Jason, I guess if they do best in multiples you’ll need go get it some companions! You could become like the getting Moorish Idols to eat whisperer. Lol

that's bizar! I wasn't laughing at the hole in head but more the idol whisperer lol

 

[ZanclusKeeper]

Here is another idol I picked up 3 weeks ago. Was not eating at the store but looked healthy. Here is after treatment of hypo and cupramine.

 

[Big G]

Beautiful fish.