I don’t know what I’m doing wrong!

[jmoney7]

I have been through 2 melanarus wrasse now each one dying within about a week. All my tank parameters are perfect I shouldn’t be losing fish the only thing I can come to at this point is that my sand bed may not be deep enough. I have 3 other fish currently that are fine and have been fine for 2 months now. Any suggestions I would really like to finally get a healthy one!

 

[coralboi56]

Tank size?
Also post parameters and most recent test date

 

[Bribo12]

What are the other fish? How big were the wrasses you got? Did you get both from the same source?

 

[WalkerLovesTheOcean]

Do you use a RO/DI water, or tap?

 

[Cichlid Dad]

I have been through 2 melanarus wrasse now each one dying within about a week. All my tank parameters are perfect I shouldn’t be losing fish the only thing I can come to at this point is that my sand bed may not be deep enough. I have 3 other fish currently that are fine and have been fine for 2 months now. Any suggestions I would really like to finally get a healthy one!

I'm sorry to be that guy, but posting parameters are perfect with no information really? You have to be more specific.

 

[Reefing Qs]

On February 4th you posted about having a Uronema outbreak in your tank, is this that same tank....?

 

[jmoney7]

On February 4th you posted about having a Uronema outbreak in your tank, is this that same tank....?

yes it was but I waited a while before adding a new fish and it doesn’t seem like he got uronema. Also I did a lot of research about uronema and you don’t have to nuke your tank to add more fish you just have to reduce stress when adding new fish which I tried to do but maybe I need to wait a little longer.

 

[jmoney7]

I'm sorry to be that guy, but posting parameters are perfect with no information really? You have to be more specific.

Ammonia: 0
Nitrate:0
Phosphate: 0.10
ph:8
Calcium: 420
Alk: 10
Salinity: 1.023

I just tested yesterday I believe nitrate is undetectable rn because I have a decent amount of hair algae currently.

 

[Cthulukelele]

Halichoeres wrasse are sensitive to uronema. Unless you get a particularly healthy one who is particularly well fed and in a very stable environment, the uronema that is already in your tank is likely to continue killing them.

 

[Cthulukelele]

If you have uronema in your tank here are some of the fish you're likely to struggle acclimating: anthias, chromis, most wrasse, certain damsels, there are others but those are the big ones I can think of off the top of my head

 

[jmoney7]

Uronema is a ubiquitous protozoan, it can be found in most mature marine aquariums. Normally, it feeds on bacteria. The longer an aquarium is established, the more common it is to find it. Some sampling of newer aquariums has shown a presence of 25% and higher. Older aquariums get closer to hitting 100%

It is the inter-cellular form that is the killer of newly acquired fish. Nobody knows how these infections get started, but it is something in the supply chain. Despite what you will read - there is NO treatment for the inter-cellular form. By the time you see the external lesion from this, the internal damage is already fatally injured the fish. While many fish in a group may show this issue, I've only seen it spread to other, long term captives once.

I did some work that shows that chloroquine works to reduce/elminate the free living form, but to what benefit?

The observational quarantine may have let some other issues get through, but Uronema really isn't a concern.

Here is an article I wrote about a decade ago, when I was experimenting with chloroquine, and then updated it here:

Uronema / Red Band Disease - Hemdal

Red Band Syndrome in Marine Fishes: Caused by the Protozoan; Uronema sp. Jay Hemdal Introduction: This moderately common disease of certain species of marine fish is so often misdiagnosed that most aquarists apply incorrect treatment methods...

www.reef2reef.com

Jay

This is from an older thread when I was trying to figure out what to do ab the uronema.

 

[jmoney7]

here is a picture of him after he has passed. Could uronema but I’m not sure I saw what it looked like on my chromis and it doesn’t look like that.

 

[jmoney7]

Here’s the picture.

 

[WalkerLovesTheOcean]

Here’s the picture.

Usually pictures of fish after they pass, can't be used to help diagnose. The fish starts to decay almost immediately after passing. It's still helpful, but usually you can't diagnose with pictures of dead fish, but there still could be signs that he died from Uronema.

 

[jmoney7]

Tank size?
Also post parameters and most recent test date

I posted parameters and most recent date was yesterday

 

[jmoney7]

Tank size is 53 total volume 43 DT

 

[jmoney7]

Do you use a RO/DI water, or tap?

Rodi

 

[jmoney7]

What are the other fish? How big were the wrasses you got? Did you get both from the same source?

Both from same source same size both juvenile males I would say an 1 1/2. I have 2 clowns and a chalk bass.

 

[Paul B]

Your parameters or depth of the gravel won't kill your fish. Unfortunately it is impossible to know what killed your fish from here with that amount of information.

How did they look before they died? Did they die with their mouth agape? Were they swimming erratically?
Were they eating? What were they eating? What do you feed? How did you acclimate? Is there any medications in the water? Did you ever use medications, How old is the tank and what kind of water do you use? What do the other fish look like? etc.

 

[jmoney7]

Your parameters or depth of the gravel won't kill your fish. Unfortunately it is impossible to know what killed your fish from here with that amount of information.

How did they look before they died? Did they die with their mouth agape? Were they swimming erratically?
Were they eating? What were they eating? What do you feed? How did you acclimate? Is there any medications in the water? Did you ever use medications, How old is the tank and what kind of water do you use? What do the other fish look like? etc.

lol he looked like he may have had some injuries before passing the day before he passed he was hiding under the sand the entire day except for 10 min which he was swimming towards the back wall and heavy breathing. When I found him dead today his mouth was open and had a lesion on him. No medication in the tank whatsoever. He was eating for ab 4 days frozen mysis. My tank is 2 months old. I use rodi water and the coral pro salt. My other fish look fine no problems no weird behavior and eat very good everyday for the passed 2 months.