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[Zack K]

Redness of the Gills and heavy breathing can be a huge giveaway of ammonia present. Always remember ANY amount of ammonia will kill fish. I would hate to jump right to velvet because of scratching. Does your little puffer have any other symptoms of velvet? Ex: Staying out of the light, not eating, white speckles on body. Let’s see what @melypr1985 and @Maritimer think

 

[savetheocean]

Redness of the Gills and heavy breathing can be a huge giveaway of ammonia present. Always remember ANY amount of ammonia will kill fish. I would hate to jump right to velvet because of scratching. Does your little puffer have any other symptoms of velvet? Ex: Staying out of the light, not eating, white speckles on body. Let’s see what @melypr1985 and @Maritimer think

I agree.

You need to feed your fish if you can, thats the most important thing IMO.

 

[Humblefish]

Its a Valentinie Puffer (No scales) I have heard mixed thoughts on copper
What do you think?

They're not supposed to tolerate copper well, but I've seen success stories - mainly using Coppersafe. Nowadays, I only use CP on puffers.

Is this "loss of color" a typical description of velvet from an inexperienced person? I had a flame hawk with a similar presentation. JW - would like to recognize it as such next time I see it and treat in time, as I'm sure the OP would as well. @Humblefish

It is a symptom of velvet; however loss of color can also be a symptom of flukes, brook, and sometimes even ich.

 

[Shayneoc]

Javy, you said you got new rock from the shop .. why did you replace your old one? Do you know how old this newer rock has been cured for? Maybe it wasn't ready and not enough bacteria to feed the larger fish being your clowns? Hard to say, it's so early in there ... Or like everyone else is saying, you caught a bug /o

 

[Maritimer]

Along with Humblefish, I'm leaning toward an ammonia spike from the added liverock and general disruption as the primary culprit. Ten gallons is a small volume, and a small change can make a big difference, fast.

Scratching and loss of color can be symptoms of a lot of things, from some really scary stuff down to "I have an itch" or "this will help me blend in with the pale background".

~Bruce

 

[Forsaken77]

I've only ever done strip tests and Amonia drop test. Everything has always been fine. Untill I replaced new rock. Tested again And now my amonia is .50. And I bought live rock from a local fish shop, and droped them into my tank. Currently the only 2 fish I have swimming alive right now is my Valentinie Puffer and a Black Goby. All my coral are fine and are not showing any symptoms of anything. Is it just a freak accident both of my clowns died back to back ?

Being it's a 10 gallon tank, I would replace all of the water, not 20%, to get rid of rhe ammonia. Get the tank as low as it'll go so the fish stays submerged. Put your corals and their rocks in a bucket of heated saltwater. You can also remove some rock. A 10 gallon is VERY small and 20 pounds of rock is taking up too much space. Cut that in half. Or better yet, use a 20 gallon and use the 10 as your quarantine tank. Petco has 20 gallon tanks in sale right now for $20.

I have used copper on Valentini Puffers just fine (and 3 other small toby puffers as well). You just have to do it right.

But getting rid of that ammonia is a high priority. If it doesn't outright kill the fish, it'll definitely make it sick and disease prone. Also, if you buy live rock, try to get cured rock in the future.

What type of filter do you have on this tank? Because it was definitely way over stocked. The smaller the tank, the more on top of it you have to be because things are so concentrated that a small shift in anything can have devastating affects very quickly.

 

[Javy]

Update on everything, All my fished died except my puffer, all my coral are fine. Learned an expensive lesson, on never new live rock and taking old rock out. A newbie mistake, that will carry on with me forever, this is all apart of the learning curve to learn about the hobby. Wish it never happend, but if it didnt happen early, it had a chance to happen later. Thanks everyone for informing me and helping me learn.

 

[Maritimer]

I'm sorry this happened to you ... but I like your positive, forward-looking attitude about it.

~Bruce

 

[Shayneoc]

You nutter. Should of removed them one by one. Most of the Bactria in all aquariums for fish lives on the rock. /o\

 

[bolson]

Being it's a 10 gallon tank, I would replace all of the water, not 20%, to get rid of rhe ammonia. Get the tank as low as it'll go so the fish stays submerged. Put your corals and their rocks in a bucket of heated saltwater. You can also remove some rock. A 10 gallon is VERY small and 20 pounds of rock is taking up too much space. Cut that in half. Or better yet, use a 20 gallon and use the 10 as your quarantine tank. Petco has 20 gallon tanks in sale right now for $20.

I have used copper on Valentini Puffers just fine (and 3 other small toby puffers as well). You just have to do it right.

But getting rid of that ammonia is a high priority. If it doesn't outright kill the fish, it'll definitely make it sick and disease prone. Also, if you buy live rock, try to get cured rock in the future.

What type of filter do you have on this tank? Because it was definitely way over stocked. The smaller the tank, the more on top of it you have to be because things are so concentrated that a small shift in anything can have devastating affects very quickly.

What type of copper did you use on your puffer?
Thanks!