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so hear is my situation. I have had a tank up for 4 months ish. my tank cyled 0 ammonia 0 nitrite 15 nitrate. that was a month ago. so I switched to checking parameters weekly instead of daily. all stayed in this rang but 3 days ago boom I have ammonium .02 ammonia I cant read I assume 0 or bellow .02. nitrite is .2 nitrate between 15 and 30 closer to 15 so I am guessing 20 ish calcium is 430 alk 10.4 mg 1320. I have tested this everyday last 3 days all around the same readings. I put some seachem prime in normal dose yesterday for me 40g tank. boom ammonia 0 nitrite 0 nitrate 5 ca alk and mg all the same. today back to ammonia 0 nitrite .02 nitrate 20 ish phosphate. all tank inhabitants look good and healthy. is this a mini cycle after feeding or is my cycle stuck? am I doing something wrong? is prime hurting my cycle and should I just do good old water changes?.. help
 
Well that was an easy problem to fix! All of us have done things where we say to ourselves- Why on earth didn't I see that. Part of the game. I once was priming a new dosing pump with ALK 2 part with the output in the actual tank- didn't think to put it in another container. I was manually running the dosing pump and watching to see then the liquid got all the way through the system to the tank. Got distracted and realized it was there when my APEX alerted me of a PH of 9.2.
 
Definitely not dumb since you figured out the answer before anyone helped you out with it.

You can probably stop dosing the prime daily at this point.

You'll want to avoid any fish additions for a while. If you are detecting ammonia soon after feeding, it's an indicator that your bacterial colonies are almost but not quite up to the task of supporting your bioload. I have an ammonia monitor on my tank and there is no ammonia detected in the water during or after feeding, because things have balanced themselves.

The general guideline is no more than 1 fish every 30 days.
 
1 fish every 30 days seems overly conservative.
 
1 fish every 30 days seems overly conservative.
Thank you for the future advice on adding fish. I dont think I'm adding anytime soon. Also, good to know about the bacteria rate braking down. I figured it was a 24 hrs sorta ordeal
 
At 4 months in forget about the cycling stuff. You have a running tank now. What your testing shows if you are overloading your biofitler by how you feed and what you do everyday. I used to use Prime and now I don't anymore. It is a good emergency measure. I have managed to stop creating them myself. I have some here but have never opened it. Things do happen you have no control over. When ammonia pops up you have overdone something. People say to go slow and this is the essence of it.
 
Unfortunately, the good stuff always takes longer than 24 hours to happen.
The bad stuff is a whole other story. lol
For sure. I am sure things will balance out with time. Also found out this mornig wife is over feeding when I'm at work. Full cube of myis shrimp just seems over kill for 5 fish. Also she did not know about scooping rest out of the water after 10 min or so. Let it all stay in tank.
 
For sure. I am sure things will balance out with time. Also found out this mornig wife is over feeding when I'm at work. Full cube of myis shrimp just seems over kill for 5 fish. Also she did not know about scooping rest out of the water after 10 min or so. Let it all stay in tank.

I had this problem with my office tank when I'm out on vacation and a co-worker feeds them for me. I bought a few small salad dressing sized tupperware containers, the ones about 2-3" square. In my case that tank is only 12 gallons with 2 clownfish, so I cut the cubes into 6 pieces and put them in the freezer inside the small container.
 
If the fish are being quarantined then 30 days is pretty much the minimum.
You can quarantine multiple fish at the same time and/or have multiple QT tanks to stagger.

General rules such as this do not work well because they are entirely dependent on a myriad of other factors such as tank size and substrate. For instance, adding a few new fish to a 10 gallon, bare bottom with little live rock could cause problems while adding those same fish to a 150 gallon with a sand bed and 100 lbs of live rock won't even register.
 
You can quarantine multiple fish at the same time and/or have multiple QT tanks to stagger.

General rules such as this do not work well because they are entirely dependent on a myriad of other factors such as tank size and substrate. For instance, adding a few new fish to a 10 gallon, bare bottom with little live rock could cause problems while adding those same fish to a 150 gallon with a sand bed and 100 lbs of live rock won't even register.
Good to know. I have a 40g tank 60lbs livesand 35 live rock. Currently 5 fish 2 emeralds hammer coral and leptoseris. I think that's how i its writen.
 
Good to know. I have a 40g tank 60lbs livesand 35 live rock. Currently 5 fish 2 emeralds hammer coral and leptoseris. I think that's how i its writen.
I should add that there is a tipping point where your bio-load is maxed out and anything more will cause problems, but you aren't close assuming those aren't 5 tangs or something.
 
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Little spikes (adjustment bumps) can be normal on a new tank with new inhabitants every time you add or on a established tank if surpassing bio load limits.

I'll try to explain real simple like.

Running tanks have a established bacteria count for what's in it. As you add or over feed you introduce more than the bacteria can process at that moment, your test kits will start to pick that up. As you continue the bacteria will grow in numbers to handle the new bio load until saturation (no more surface area to grow in tank) that is your ceiling. When you surpass what the tanks bacteria can handle you will start to see continuous spikes after feedings that won't go all the way back down and will register all 3 parameters when testing. When you get to high (over do it, instant huge load) it becomes like a teeter totter, just balancing, it will either work itself out, or crash. When you start to register all 3 during weekly testing you have over done it and need to back off on feedings or get rid of a couple fish, you're now on the border line. 1 mistake or accident at feeding time you may crash.

When you can register ammonia only, you have caught the start of what happened. Which would mean look back up to 7 days prior for what you changed/did.

Super simple explanation is:

Ammonia = weeds, bacteria = help. 1 help can remove 1 weed per day. You only have room for 50 workers in your tank. You have 4 weeds per day and 4 helpers to remove them, everything is balanced. You add food/fish and the next day you have 5 weeds and only 4 helpers. So only 4 weeds get pulled and 1 is left. You ask for more help the next day and get 5 workers. The next day they pull all 5 weeds. So everything is balanced out now. When you get 51 weeds and only 50 workers can fit in you tank, then the weeds start to take over and we don't have enough room/help to pull them. Also remember for every new worker that comes into the tank, they will need a couple days to acclimate to there new job, so it might take them a couple days to get on the ball.

After the weeds are pulled , they are now relabeled to compost (nitrites) and the process starts again, same concept.
When the compost is put out, it then becomes rubbish (nitrates) in which we only have so much room on the curb for before we manually have to remove it.

When we start generating to many weeds, compost, and rubbish in the tank it will become overrun, with not enough help to manage it. Now it starts to pile up, if left unchecked you end up with a land fill.

Prime would be like extra help in the bottle, they remove 1 weed each, then leave. So if we had 101 weeds and 50 workers, the prime would add the other 51 workers to pick the extra 51 weeds. After they pick one, they leave. So after all the prime workers pick weeds or leave, you would want to be back down around the max of 50 weeds/workers in the tank.

And as CELL had said, each tank will be different. No set limit on what can be added, some general rules of thumb for initial stocking. In some tanks 2+2=1, others 2+2=4, and then the 2+2=5 in others. So as long as 2+2=4 or less, everything runs like clock work.
 
I should add that there is a tipping point where your bio-load is maxed out and anything more will cause problems, but you aren't close assuming those aren't 5 tangs or something.
Nah I have 1 small clown. 1 green chromis.1 watchmen goby.1scooter belly.1 6line wrasse. I also have 2 emerald crabs. 2 corals that are doing pretty good so far. Only had 2 weeks. A hammer and a lepto. I did add the fish sorta fast 2 weeks apart but waited a month and got corals
 

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