I want a clam! Need advice...

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I've recently set up a 20g long nano reef. It's bare bones meaning I only have a heater, HOB filter (only running chemi-pure elite in filter) and some koralia nano circulation pumps. (250 model and 425 model I believe.) I have a Chinese led box off eBay made by Mars Aqua to light this tank. The tank has been up for about a month. I know it's too soon for a clam but I want to make sure I don't add things from now until then that aren't comparable with said clam. All I have now are some Zoa frags, and a devils hand frag along with a yellow watchman goby. Then some snails and hermits. I guess what I'm asking is what do I need to do to make sure this set up is good enough to house a clam, probably a maxima?

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Most clams that would work in this size tank can be pretty iffy long term. 2 to 3 inch clams have a high morality rate.
http://www.advancedaquarist.com/2009/3/aafeature1

This article finds that the most common cause of clam death is lighting The bright colored maxima and crocea clam that everyone loves require more lighting that most SPS corals as clams are a more highly developed organism.
 
Well I'm pretty sure lighting on this tank wouldn't be a problem but as far as caring for a small clam I have no idea.
 
Looks like china LED's to me. Would have to put a Par meter on it to tell
 
It is a Chinese led figure. And with the lenses on it I'm sure it could probably over light a clam in the center of the tank.
 
it's the kind of light the author of the article is writing about might keep corals alive but not a clam.
Clam's a very touchy animals and if you think SPS are hard try keeping a 2" clam happy.:)
 
I appreciate what you're saying and I'm just curious now as to why it would be different? I'm assuming Zoezantheli (I probably murdered that spelling) would be the same on either animal but I could be wrong. Either way the guy at my lfs has had the same 3-4 clams in his tank under the same light I bought for this 20g. I know he has had those same clams for at least a month now but maybe that's not enough time to tell.
 
You'll also need to supplement alk/calc. Clams really suck up the calcium carbonate.
 
Clams can be tough! An Sps might look unhappy and you can make changes, once a clam looks unhappy, it's pretty much a goner (for a beginner at least!)
 
Light should work fine but as stated they can be difficult if troubles arise. They need more then light proper nutrition and as stated calcium/alk will need to be tested and maintain the proper levels for good health n growth.
 
I have quite a bit of experience with clams. I have raised 3/4" clams to 2+ inches before they managed to flip over and die on me. I have raised large clams Derasa from 3" to 10" and squamosa 2" to 12" and croceas for over 9 years. They are not for the faint of heart.

Couple recommendations for a new clam owner. Do not get a baby maxima. It may last up to 3 months, but unless you are feeding it regularly, have nothing (I mean nothing) bothering it, good light, and excellent, stable calcium, you will lose it. Even with all that, most will not survive past 5 months in a normal set up.

A good starter is a derasa. Less light, more able to handle swings, and not as finicky. However, these will quickly outgrow your system. They will use heavy calcium as all clams do. So if you are not dosing or using a calc reactor, you probably cannot keep up on the calcium demands.

If you are headstrong on a clam (which I can fully support), get your feet wet for well over a year to year and a half. Try some sps. Let the tank mature with lots of life. Then consider a derasa or squamosa. However, the only one for that size tank is a crocea and they are not the good starters. They need tons of light. So, if you want a clam, a bigger tank is better. Handling some sps is good experience. Expect to spend a lot of money and a lot of heart, because these babies not only cost a lot, they die easily.

For instance, my squamosa (12") was great for years when I noticed a small bit of the mantle being held in. I saw my large redfoot conch (that ate my derasa) near it and immediately removed to the sump (the conch, not the clam). Within a month, the clam died. I did a dip (not easy on a huge clam), nothing else was wrong. Broke my heart.
 
I appreciate all the advice! And I would definitely like a clam sometime and since my tank is so new I knew I'd have to wait. I just know it's something I want to try at some point so I'm getting my feelers out there. Thanks for all your comments!
 
Main thing is to learn about the care of the animal before you rush out a purchase one. This goes for any animal be it fish coral dog or cat.:) Would not want you to not be successful in keeping animal as it is death for the animal and you will become discouraged and drop out of the hobby. So read and learn about how to care for corals and fish before purchase. Its good that you asked about their care. LFS would have just sold you one and let you kill it.
 
To be honest about the lfs statement, I've been to a few now and I would normally agree about them selling you things just to make money. But there have been countless times where the LFS I go to now has told me my tank is too new for something or that I couldn't add a fish to my tank because it was too small. So he's a pretty honest and good guy. But I will definitely do more research and make sure I buy a larger clam to start. I plan to upgrade tanks after to long anyways so maybe I'll wait until then to get a clam. That said, being that this tank has no ATO or a sump, how would the best way to dose calc and alk be?
 
I always thought the following video was extremely informative and should help in making the right choice as far as the likelihood of the clam surviving.


Why do Clams Die in Aquariums
 
Yes Gerry knows his clams. He has been raising clams since the early 90's. Meet him at MACNA 4 and buy stuff from him all the time.
 

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