Ich Issues

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if i get an RX from my dogs vet, can i pull up to a walgreens and pick it up there or would that be something the vet keeps in stock?
i'm already preparing myself to set up two QT tanks for the 12 fish which are the following:
1- skunk clown
1-Foxface
2- PJ cardinals
4- Damels
1- Mandarin
1- purple fire fish goby
1- royal gamma
1- PBT
are two 30 gal tanks enough?

I think you would need a compounding pharmacy, and it would be expensive (I never personally looked).

Humblefish discusses a website he uses (after you have a prescription).

https://www.reef2reef.com/threads/diamondback-cp.318230/
 
Here are the options I would consider.

1.) TTM everything with 5 gallon buckets then hold the fish in 2 QT's or one large enough to support all your livestock while the DT sits fallow. TTM will clear the ich, and you can feed mandarin pods. The mandarin can stay with everything else since no medication is present. I would only do this is you are 100% sure its not velvet, which I think everything would be dead by now if it was.

2.) Get a QT big enough, or two, and treat with copper or CP, this would cover ich and velvet. Your mandarin may be able to survive CP if he eats, but not copper. You could also TTM the mandarin separately and keep him in a bucket for the entire period and feed him pods (if you TTM the mandarin, he could still carry velvet, but I think he would die if it was velvet during the fallow period).
 
Here are the options I would consider.

1.) TTM everything with 5 gallon buckets then hold the fish in 2 QT's or one large enough to support all your livestock while the DT sits fallow. TTM will clear the ich, and you can feed mandarin pods. The mandarin can stay with everything else since no medication is present. I would only do this is you are 100% sure its not velvet, which I think everything would be dead by now if it was.

2.) Get a QT big enough, or two, and treat with copper or CP, this would cover ich and velvet. Your mandarin may be able to survive CP if he eats, but not copper. You could also TTM the mandarin separately and keep him in a bucket for the entire period and feed him pods (if you TTM the mandarin, he could still carry velvet, but I think he would die if it was velvet during the fallow period).
Thanks for this input @Josh Kraft you just might of saved my mandarin from going back to the LFS. I will look more into TTM and how its performed and once i complete the process i'll keep the fish in QT until day 76 or so.
Now would 6 fish be ok in a 5 gal bucket until transfer day? i do have 5 homedepot buckets ive used in the past for water changes that would work perfect for this.
I dont believe i have velvet cause i havent lost a fish in months
 
You can also buy one more bucket and then have three sets of buckets, that would bring you down to 4 fish per bucket. That also does require one more set of all the other equipment
 
Thanks for this input @Josh Kraft you just might of saved my mandarin from going back to the LFS. I will look more into TTM and how its performed and once i complete the process i'll keep the fish in QT until day 76 or so.
Now would 6 fish be ok in a 5 gal bucket until transfer day? i do have 5 homedepot buckets ive used in the past for water changes that would work perfect for this.
I dont believe i have velvet cause i havent lost a fish in months
6 fish seems a lot. Id consider getting some larger plastic storage containers instead
 
Alright so I've read many threads on "how to" QT and "how to" treat ICH but still have some questions. I've noticed my powder blue tang is getting more and more white sprinkles over its body over the last week but he's been eating well, happy, swimming, not flashing, scratching, etc and i suspect its ICH and not velvet cause i have had this tang for a month already and everyone else in the tank is still alive, happy, and fat.
No other fish are showing signs of ich but i do plan on trapping everyone and placing them all in QT.

Now this leaves my inverts, sps, lps corals in the DT, if i go fallow will this still kill off the ich in the DT even though i still have some live stock in the DT?
whats a recommended copper solution out there? Seems like BRS doesnt sell copper stuff or i maybe over looking it. I do plan on using prazipro Thank everyone.

I had a purple tang for three weeks same white spots, a few in the morning and a lot by afternoon! Fish ate did not scratch just like your powder blue. Non of the other fish had signs. A LFS sold me this stuff called Reef Keeper, it’s like an immune booster, at first I said I don’t believe in any of that ich stuff, guy said use it if it doesn’t work come get your money back , no lie within a day my purple had no white spots, I use it all the time when adding a fish etc, reef safe, that LFS is gone but my other one, who I bought the purple from, started carrying it after I told him what happened and can’t keep it on the shelves. Not a cure for real sick fishes but if you see someone start to scratch etc dose it !!
 
I had a purple tang for three weeks same white spots, a few in the morning and a lot by afternoon! Fish ate did not scratch just like your powder blue. Non of the other fish had signs. A LFS sold me this stuff called Reef Keeper, it’s like an immune booster, at first I said I don’t believe in any of that ich stuff, guy said use it if it doesn’t work come get your money back , no lie within a day my purple had no white spots, I use it all the time when adding a fish etc, reef safe, that LFS is gone but my other one, who I bought the purple from, started carrying it after I told him what happened and can’t keep it on the shelves. Not a cure for real sick fishes but if you see someone start to scratch etc dose it !!
thanks, by any chance can you post a picture of this product?
 
I was wondering if you can perform the TTM on inverts, snails, etc?
I dip all my corals before they go in my DT but after this mission anything and everything will be treated before evening seeing my DT.
 
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I was wondering if you can perform the TTM on inverts, snails, etc?
I dip all my corals before they go in my DT but after this mission anything and everything will be treated before evening seeing my DT.

I'm pretty sure nothing can host on them, if something comes in on an invert, its an egg that will hatch and die off because it can't find a host.

I buy my CUC from an online vendor that doesn't have fish in any of his tanks. reefcleaners
 
I was wondering if you can perform the TTM on inverts, snails, etc?
I dip all my corals before they go in my DT but after this mission anything and everything will be treated before evening seeing my DT.

TTM only works on fish with ich, because they carry the trophont stage which drops off after 3-7 days.

Corals/inverts/snails can carry the tomont stage, which lasts up to 72 days in rare cases. Although, 2-4 weeks is more the "norm" with 6 weeks being the max outside of one known strain (the 72 day variant). So, to protect against tomonts you should isolate any new coral/invert/snail to a fishless environment (i.e. frag tank) for 6 weeks, or 76 days if you wanted to play it extra safe: https://www.reef2reef.com/threads/coral-invert-quarantine-time-frames.334584/
 
So i wanted to give everyone a small update on my progress of controlling the ICH issue in my reef tank.
After some research and asking around to other trust worthy reefers I have decided to treat my system with a product called" Microbe-lift Herbtana" its a chemical free treatment to help boost my fishes immune system to fight back the parasite. I'm currently on day 3 of a 10 day treatment, so far my PWT and the rest of it's tank mates look great swimming and eating. My pwt seems to be clearing up from some ICH which i believe is a positive sign but i don't believe this will completely kill off the parasite but only time would tell but its certainly helping keep some sort of control on them. The only draw back im having is some of my acans and torches are not as extended as they normally would be but my sticks, zoas, and mushrooms are doing just fine. I will periodically keep everyone updated on my progress and hopefully this could help give insight to someone else battling ICH.
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Good luck. I hope it works out for you, but see below.

Did you happen to check this out? https://www.reef2reef.com/ams/ich-and-acanthurus-tangs-years-of-experience-and-ich-management.106/

Specifically this,

So what happens when you try to manage ich with an Acanthurus tang?

Let me speak from experience watching dozens suffer before I could catch them (always too late) to treat:

The parasite slowly increases its presence on the fish. Starts on the gills out of sight, then on to fins, then all over the head and perhaps other areas. They increase in numbers.

Simultaneously the gills become more and more damaged and the fish is increasingly less able to breathe and very slowly suffocates over weeks.

The fish can be fat in the belly but it's lateral line and bones will begin to show. The parasite literally sucks the nourishment and life out of the fish. A morbidly obese tang in the belly region will eventually appear emaciated throughout the rest of its body as it suffers more and more. They will scratch, breathe heavy, lose color, swim sporadically which fades to hiding and becoming less active. They will eventually stop eating, and the parasite will finally suck the remaining hint of life out of them.

If well fed and fat (lots of nori) the process can take 2-6 weeks before killing it off.

It is horrible to watch, I somehow justified it by claiming the fish was weak and would have died anyway. The above experiences largely negate that. It's awful to watch them suffer this way on a glim hope that I will magically start warding them off. With my success over the past few years with these fish I can't believe I used to have trouble before. This is so much easier and more rewarding (treating all fish and properly quarantining).

I've seen this process happen to hippo tangs that even disappeared for a few days only to emerge apparently ich free. I guess I expected this to happen with Acanthurus tangs. I assure you, it will not.

If you cannot afford to qt, or don't have the space, or don't want to deal with the trouble, then do the oceans a favor and either stick to only the hardiest species (some of which you will still kill) or perhaps leave the hobby.

It's our responsibility to these fish to keep them healthy.
 
Ok. so this treatment did not do anything to help control my ich out break, in the beginning seemed to be helping out but as time went by i'm seeing my PBT and foxface get more and more ich on them so i'm gonna have to bite the bullet and QT everyone.
Can someone please provide me with a link on "how-to" properly qt for ich,worms,velvet,etc. I know i may just be dealing with ich but might as well treat for as much as i can while i'm at it and waiting for 76 days for the parasite to starve itself out.
As far as equipment i know what to get but its the medication part i'm not 100% sure on what to buy and how to dose. Thanks
@Humblefish
 
Ok. so this treatment did not do anything to help control my ich out break, in the beginning seemed to be helping out but as time went by i'm seeing my PBT and foxface get more and more ich on them so i'm gonna have to bite the bullet and QT everyone.
Can someone please provide me with a link on "how-to" properly qt for ich,worms,velvet,etc. I know i may just be dealing with ich but might as well treat for as much as i can while i'm at it and waiting for 76 days for the parasite to starve itself out.
As far as equipment i know what to get but its the medication part i'm not 100% sure on what to buy and how to dose. Thanks
@Humblefish

You'll want to start with this chart to choose the kind of coper you will use.

https://www.reef2reef.com/threads/fish-and-treatment-guidelines-with-chart.283450/

The Mandarin won't survive copper, you may want to re-home him, or treat him or all the fish with CP instead of copper (this requires a prescription).

This link has the info on the copper treatments and the test kits required and the level of copper you need to treat. I personally use coppersafe with the API test kit.

https://www.reef2reef.com/threads/copper-test-kits.257924/

Good luck.
 

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