Ich or not?

[Timothy Davis]

I have noticed these spots on my fox face this morning that were not present last night. My powder brown died yesterday afternoon of unknown causes, the fish itself looked fine and water parameters were good. Below is a picture of the fox face

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[blaxsun]

#fishmedic

 

[Jay Hemdal Verified Community Expert]

I have noticed these spots on my fox face this morning that were not present last night. My powder brown died yesterday afternoon of unknown causes, the fish itself looked fine and water parameters were good. Below is a picture of the fox face

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That looks like ich. What symptoms did the powder brown show before dying? Fish need to have worse ich infections than this (more spots) before they die from it.

Did you see rapid breathing in the tang?
Was it thin?
How long did you have it?

Jay

 

[Timothy Davis]

That looks like ich. What symptoms did the powder brown show before dying? Fish need to have worse ich infections than this (more spots) before they die from it.

Did you see rapid breathing in the tang?
Was it thin?
How long did you have it?

Jay

Thanks for the prompt response, Jay.

The powder brown was about 2.5in, not what I would consider thin… admittedly it’s my first real experience with a tang. He didn’t seem labored, swam around just fine, ate without issues and would graze on algae throughout the day.

I was gone for about 12ish hours before noticing the tang laying on the sand bed dead, so I was unable to see any symptoms prior to his death. They did not eat in that 12 hours, but surely it wasn’t starvation… upon looking at the body, I noticed no injuries, spots, or abnormalities except the fact that it was dead.

I had the tang for two weeks, not long, and admittedly it was not quarantined. Hopefully not a fatal flaw.

Other tank inhabitants are some snails, corals, 4 damsels, a Valentini puffer, and the FoxFace.

 

[nereefpat]

Sorry about the powder brown.

The bicolor foxface looks to have ich. To me, it's at a borderline stage of whether to treat for it or not.

 

[Jay Hemdal Verified Community Expert]

Thanks for the prompt response, Jay.

The powder brown was about 2.5in, not what I would consider thin… admittedly it’s my first real experience with a tang. He didn’t seem labored, swam around just fine, ate without issues and would graze on algae throughout the day.

I was gone for about 12ish hours before noticing the tang laying on the sand bed dead, so I was unable to see any symptoms prior to his death. They did not eat in that 12 hours, but surely it wasn’t starvation… upon looking at the body, I noticed no injuries, spots, or abnormalities except the fact that it was dead.

I had the tang for two weeks, not long, and admittedly it was not quarantined. Hopefully not a fatal flaw.

Other tank inhabitants are some snails, corals, 4 damsels, a Valentini puffer, and the FoxFace.

Ok, the tang dying was probably not related to this foxface with ich. Does the puffer show any spots yet?

If you need to treat for ich, your options are limited because of the invertebrates. Hyposalinity or coppersafe are the two best treatments. Hypo requires you move all of the invertebrates out and lowering the salinity. Copper requires moving all the fish out and treating them with Coppersafe in a treatment tank.

Jay