Ich or velvet? Conflicting information

[blueberryblue]

Hello,

After adding a tailspot blenny, it died within 4 days and then on day 5 I noticed all my fish had white powdery stuff on them. Since the disease was so quick and it seemed really powdery on my clownfish, I diagnosed it as velvet. But recently I noticed my Valentini puffer has bigger white spots, specifically on his fins and eyes. I gave them a freshwater bath before I transferred them to the quarantine tank, where they’ve been getting fritz copper safe.

Any thoughts or ideas on what it could be? I’ve always thought velvet was smaller than how it looks on my Valentini. I was really hoping to only fallow for 50 days instead of 72.

here are my clowns which really made me think velvet.

here is the Valentini with the bigger spots mainly on his fins, eyes, and lips. I think it’s worth noting that there is some sand particles in my quarantine tank and my puffer sleeps on the bottom of tank, so might be possible they are sand grains sticking to his slimy coat? I’m not sure.

I also have a lawnmower blenny which I had not noticed any spots on., though he hides a lot so I haven’t gotten a super close look.
Thanks for any help!

 

[KING KONG]

Hello,

After adding a tailspot blenny, it died within 4 days and then on day 5 I noticed all my fish had white powdery stuff on them. Since the disease was so quick and it seemed really powdery on my clownfish, I diagnosed it as velvet. But recently I noticed my Valentini puffer has bigger white spots, specifically on his fins and eyes. I gave them a freshwater bath before I transferred them to the quarantine tank, where they’ve been getting fritz copper safe.

Any thoughts or ideas on what it could be? I’ve always thought velvet was smaller than how it looks on my Valentini. I was really hoping to only fallow for 50 days instead of 72.

here are my clowns which really made me think velvet.

here is the Valentini with the bigger spots mainly on his fins, eyes, and lips. I think it’s worth noting that there is some sand particles in my quarantine tank and my puffer sleeps on the bottom of tank, so might be possible they are sand grains sticking to his slimy coat? I’m not sure.

I also have a lawnmower blenny which I had not noticed any spots on., though he hides a lot so I haven’t gotten a super close look.
Thanks for any help!

How your fish r breathing? Heavy breathing,cloudy eyes, not eating, and waving in water currents r symptoms of velvet
#fishmedic

 

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[vetteguy53081]

Hello,

After adding a tailspot blenny, it died within 4 days and then on day 5 I noticed all my fish had white powdery stuff on them. Since the disease was so quick and it seemed really powdery on my clownfish, I diagnosed it as velvet. But recently I noticed my Valentini puffer has bigger white spots, specifically on his fins and eyes. I gave them a freshwater bath before I transferred them to the quarantine tank, where they’ve been getting fritz copper safe.

Any thoughts or ideas on what it could be? I’ve always thought velvet was smaller than how it looks on my Valentini. I was really hoping to only fallow for 50 days instead of 72.

here are my clowns which really made me think velvet.

here is the Valentini with the bigger spots mainly on his fins, eyes, and lips. I think it’s worth noting that there is some sand particles in my quarantine tank and my puffer sleeps on the bottom of tank, so might be possible they are sand grains sticking to his slimy coat? I’m not sure.

I also have a lawnmower blenny which I had not noticed any spots on., though he hides a lot so I haven’t gotten a super close look.
Thanks for any help!

This is ich.
You will need to place fish in Quarantine tank and treat with Coppersafe or Copper Power at therapeutic level 2.25-2.5 For a FULL 30 days (do not interrupt this 30 day period) monitored by a reliable Copper Test kit such as Hanna Brand- No API brand. Also monitor Ammonia levels while in quarantine with a reliable test kit and add aeration during treatment using an air stone.
The display tank will have to be kept fishless (FALLOW) for 6-8 weeks to assure the existing parasites go through their life cycle without a host fish and die off
A quarantine tank can be as simple as a starter kit from Walmart which most of the needed essentials.

 

[Lavey29]

Clowns are well known for brook not velvet. Commonly referred to as clownfish disease. Which affects all fish in the tank and kills very quickly. Common symptom is the powdery appearance you describe which is actually a mucus reaction. The pics you show seem more like ich though and not brook but the rapid death would be indicative of brook.

 

[blueberryblue]

How your fish r breathing? Heavy breathing,cloudy eyes, not eating, and waving in water currents r symptoms of velvet
#fishmedic

Honestly haven’t seen much current swimming, but definitely heavy breathing. They are eating relatively fine at this point.

 

[Jay Hemdal Verified Community Expert]

Honestly haven’t seen much current swimming, but definitely heavy breathing. They are eating relatively fine at this point.

Those fish all appear to have marine ich. With velvet, you won't see any spots until the fish are near death, and then, if you see anything, it will look more like a white sheen. If you can see discrete spots, it is ich. Brooklynella, in advanced stages, looks like mucus sheets. Other diseases can cause white spots, but this is ich.

Jay

 

[nereefpat]

I agree with ich. Treatment for both is the same, if you are using copper. Fallow of 50 days is more than likely long enough if the temperature is 80+. 72 days is overkill, and a dated recommendation.