Ich Outbreak, need help deciding path to Eradication

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So the history of my tank:
180 gallon reef been up and running for a year now. (This is after a 3 year break form the hobby, been at reef keeping a long time).
75 gallon sump and a 40 gallon refugium.

List of my current Fish: (10 medium to small fish)
Yellow Tang, Powder Brown Tang, 3 Clown Fish, 2 smaller Engineer Gobies, Neon Dottyback, Leopard wrasse, Coral Beauty

I have started slow to rebuild my reef being very particular about the corals I buy and fish. (making sure they are fabulous in color and all that)
I was lazy in I was not dipping corals or quarantining fish first (that is over).

I woke up a few days ago to see Ich on most of the fish and to find its so bad I can see them floating around in the water. I went into Panic Mode...

I want to Eradicate the Ich from my tank so this is my plan so far:
I am converting over my 40 gallon refuge to be stand along for a quarantine tank.
I have a HOB filter, sponge filter, heater, powerhead, seachem ammonia alert, copper power coming Saturday.

I was hoping to house all fish in the 40 for the 76/or more days to starve out the Ich in tank and be able to treat the ich with copper power in the quarantine tank.

I am concerned that this is to many fish to have in the 40... not sure though... Thoughts?

In theory I could turn my 75 gallon sump into my quarantine tank and take the simmer and 6 marine pure blocks i have in there out and use that for the quarantine tank so there is more room... I would have to put the 6 Marine pure blocks in the display tank to keep them alive... (Also with the 6 marine pure blocks I still after a year have never registered a single drop of Nitrates... Just FYI)

I could also use the 40 gallon breeder and also use another larger tote that I have that could hold about 40 gallons but then I would need to buy more stuff to make that work... I have another older heater and powerhead... I could use the sponge filter in one and the HOB filter on the other...

Thoughts on my predicament? Ideas?

I will include some pics of my system, I hate seeing posts with no pics...
The 40 gallon refuge is empty to prepare for this event on Saturday.. cleaned the rock, sand and Chaeto last night.
Sorry so blue, my wife can take better pics of the reef than I can.
We made all the rock ourselves just fyi.

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fallow and qt
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I see you already selected to do them, excellent
 
I do think its too much fish for the forty once the feeding starts, not just to carry their bioload. we had a guy put twenty clowns into a fully cycled 40 two weeks ago and its been running the whole time in ammonia control. it can carry his bioload but that's a full reef established, the breeder setup will be less able to carry loading in my opinion unless you stack in the surface area. its not about dosing bottled bac for sure, its about having enough surface area in the holding system if you want to push carry limits.

in my opinion the 40 at that concentration of fish might have 02 issues. any degree of bubbling will likely offset it but where its not a prob for reef tanks 02 is a legit concern in high bioload holding setups.
 
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I am adding a fam filter thing that has a bubbler in it plus Ill have the HOB filter running.
I am thinking the 75 is the better option for more water volume... dont see a reason not so use it.
 
Now I am thinking I will need a quarantine tank later anyway (wont want to break down my 40 gallon refugium each time) So I can run 2 tanks for now and split the fish into both tanks.
 
I bought a 29 gallon tank to be my official quarantine tank so between the 40 and 29 I can split the fish up so the bio load will be ok.

Tomorrow I get to play fishermen and try and catch all the fish in the main tank...
 
So the history of my tank:
180 gallon reef been up and running for a year now. (This is after a 3 year break form the hobby, been at reef keeping a long time).
75 gallon sump and a 40 gallon refugium.

List of my current Fish: (10 medium to small fish)
Yellow Tang, Powder Brown Tang, 3 Clown Fish, 2 smaller Engineer Gobies, Neon Dottyback, Leopard wrasse, Coral Beauty

I have started slow to rebuild my reef being very particular about the corals I buy and fish. (making sure they are fabulous in color and all that)
I was lazy in I was not dipping corals or quarantining fish first (that is over).

I woke up a few days ago to see Ich on most of the fish and to find its so bad I can see them floating around in the water. I went into Panic Mode...

I want to Eradicate the Ich from my tank so this is my plan so far:
I am converting over my 40 gallon refuge to be stand along for a quarantine tank.
I have a HOB filter, sponge filter, heater, powerhead, seachem ammonia alert, copper power coming Saturday.

I was hoping to house all fish in the 40 for the 76/or more days to starve out the Ich in tank and be able to treat the ich with copper power in the quarantine tank.

I am concerned that this is to many fish to have in the 40... not sure though... Thoughts?

In theory I could turn my 75 gallon sump into my quarantine tank and take the simmer and 6 marine pure blocks i have in there out and use that for the quarantine tank so there is more room... I would have to put the 6 Marine pure blocks in the display tank to keep them alive... (Also with the 6 marine pure blocks I still after a year have never registered a single drop of Nitrates... Just FYI)

I could also use the 40 gallon breeder and also use another larger tote that I have that could hold about 40 gallons but then I would need to buy more stuff to make that work... I have another older heater and powerhead... I could use the sponge filter in one and the HOB filter on the other...

Thoughts on my predicament? Ideas?

I will include some pics of my system, I hate seeing posts with no pics...
The 40 gallon refuge is empty to prepare for this event on Saturday.. cleaned the rock, sand and Chaeto last night.
Sorry so blue, my wife can take better pics of the reef than I can.
We made all the rock ourselves just fyi.

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76 days fallow is based off of a study from half a decade ago in 68 degree water. Ich has been proven to slow its lifecycle in cold water. If you feel waiting that long is worth total and complete peace of mind, it won't hurt. 45 days has been used by many including myself.
 

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