Ich/velvet thru coral

[Wildreefs]

Trying to look at the odds of fish pest introduction thru adding snails and corals with out a coral fallow period

 

[BighohoReef]

What data points are you looking for? Only ich and velvet? It's such a challenge because of all the sources and variables for where we get corals and inverts. I'm not sure if anyone has done a write up on this, I only know of QT'ing and treatment options. Following along because I have no idea what the chances are for getting ich/velvet on plugs and inverts are... my assumption is pretty low but lots of places keep established fish in there systems.

 

[Tiki Reef Joshua]

It can definitely happen. Only people on the internet QT all corals and inverts for 76 days though.

 

[Gablami]

It can definitely happen. Only people on the internet QT all corals and inverts for 76 days though.

True that!

 

[Cabinetman]

I’m dealing with velvet right now from adding coral to my display that wasn’t qt’d. Anything that is wet can carry it is what I’ve learned the hard way..

 

[SaltyT]

^^ I can sympathize. I introduced velvet to my DT before via an emerald crab

 

[BighohoReef]

Folks vote so we can get some real data!!!

 

[Wildreefs]

I know the hard to be scientifically correct with this at a hobbyist level, too many variables and unknowns (for instance someone who qts everything wet however uses same water change hose for both tanks etc)

but I wonder how many people qt fish or better get had them done professionally, never saw parasites for months or years until adding those corals.

it’s a huge dilemma in my opinion. Very difficult to acros, and very expensive to buy qtd fish, especially is that “qt clean” status goes away from adding a $20 green slimer.

In my case, every fish was qtd, by either me or a qt fish place that’s reputable. Wasn’t until 2-3 months after adding acros did I see ich. But I also added snails, so was it the coral? The snails? Improper fish qt?

 

[gray808]

In my case, every fish was qtd, by either me or a qt fish place that’s reputable.

The perked my ears up... is there such a thing as a place that will QT your fish?

I'd be more than willing to throw money at the problem and have a 3rd party host the fish (coral, etc) for 76 days, if it meant I got a guaranteed clean product, without having to use the time and space to run my own QT tank.

--Gray

 

[Marc2952]

^^ I can sympathize. I introduced velvet to my DT before via an emerald crab

Same thing happened to me, i got ich that came from some emerald crabs i ordered from reefcleaners.

 

[Marc2952]

The perked my ears up... is there such a thing as a place that will QT your fish?

I'd be more than willing to throw money at the problem and have a 3rd party host the fish (coral, etc) for 76 days, if it meant I got a guaranteed clean product, without having to use the time and space to run my own QT tank.

--Gray

Tsm aquatics has a very strict QT procedure. But i still put any new fish in QT to atleast visualize them for 2 weeks.

 

[Bpfor3]

Well, my story is i got ich, pulled all the fish out, went fallow for 80 days. Put fish back in. Religiously QT'd all new fish. Everything doing well, until i bought a goni that was kept in a tank where fish for sale were also kept. Within 5-7 days of putting it in my DT, i had ich. Have not lost anything yet, but still fighting it.

 

[Bpfor3]

The perked my ears up... is there such a thing as a place that will QT your fish?

I'd be more than willing to throw money at the problem and have a 3rd party host the fish (coral, etc) for 76 days, if it meant I got a guaranteed clean product, without having to use the time and space to run my own QT tank.

--Gray

TSM Aquatics and Marine Collectors will do it and do it well.

 

[SaltyT]

In my instance, the emerald crab I introduced came from a friend that broke his 1000 gal tank down. I never saw velvet or ich on his fish but I guess he was practicing velvet/ich management in that large of a system and didn't realize it (??).
~ 2 weeks after I put the crab in, my wrasses started flashing, shortly after they were swimming into powerhead flows and all of my fairy and flasher wrasses were covered in typical velvet spots. I hadn't introduced any fish, corals or inverts for nearly a year prior to that darn emerald crab.

I've learned many hard lessons in this hobby over the years.

 

[Gablami]

The perked my ears up... is there such a thing as a place that will QT your fish?

I'd be more than willing to throw money at the problem and have a 3rd party host the fish (coral, etc) for 76 days, if it meant I got a guaranteed clean product, without having to use the time and space to run my own QT tank.

--Gray

There are places that will treat or QT fish before selling, but I don’t think you’ll ever get a guarantee. And it certainly wouldn’t extend to the rest of your tank livestock if the worst case scenario happened.

 

[gray808]

TSM Aquatics and Marine Collectors will do it and do it well.

Ah, ok.
It's just different places having different standards/procedures.

I was thinking like a place that would provide a paid QT service.

--Gray

 

[Jay Hemdal Verified Community Expert]

Dealers need to stop using their coral systems to house fish, there can be a “Typhoid Mary” in there, sending disease out with every coral sold....

 

[Tamberav]

The perked my ears up... is there such a thing as a place that will QT your fish?

I'd be more than willing to throw money at the problem and have a 3rd party host the fish (coral, etc) for 76 days, if it meant I got a guaranteed clean product, without having to use the time and space to run my own QT tank.

--Gray

There are several that sell QT fish ... some are sponsors here...

TSM
Quarantined Marine
Baybridge Aquarium
Fishotel
Quarantined Fish LLC

 

[Bpfor3]

Ah, ok.
It's just different places having different standards/procedures.

I was thinking like a place that would provide a paid QT service.

--Gray

Call them. They will tell you what they do. I know TSM is 30 days copper and prazi as a baseline. Same QT I would do at home.

 

[gray808]

There are several that sell QT fish ... some are sponsors here...

TSM
Quarantined Marine
Baybridge Aquarium
Fishotel
Quarantined Fish LLC

THANK YOU!

Excellent info, all of them now bookmarked!

If anyone else know of any other places that reliably quarantine their fish, please chime in!

--Gray