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I believe I have a powder blue tang with the Ich and maybe another one. I've used Focus meds and completed a fresh water dip. Not sure he's going to make it and my hearts breaking for him. Poor little guy.
What has been successful with anyone?
He is hiding somewhat and after the dip stopped eating.
Please help
 
Look - this may not be possible for you - but I've had remarkable success with a diatom filter.

The flow thru the filter should be on the order of (system volume X 9)/120 in GPM
so if you have a 50 gallon tank it take a diatom filter with a flow of (50x9)/120 ~ 3.75gpm or about 225 gallons per hour.
The intake and outflow for the filter must come from the tank - not the sump.

This will strip the free swimming trophants from the water in 2 hours. The fish will start looking better in a day.
I generally run the fillter for a week ot two total - it may clog - if it does clean it and rehang it.

This works for velvet too.

I've made diatom filters out of high flow cannister filters before, but if you have to you can make one in an empty salt bucket.

This can be used in addition to any other treatments you desire...but I use this alone and it works. This is an old school treatment used by many public aquariums.
 
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Thank you Robert. Powder died last night.
Can you give me some direction about making this please?
I'm terrified that this could effect others if not all. I love my little fish. I did isolate him in a glass trap last night. Does it find another host before killing one?
If anyone is in my area top help please do so?
I'm in Dacula ga.
 
Can you use a spongy filter in the canister? I have some old dried sea sponge that i belive could filter better. Wonder if that would work.
 
You use the rubbermade as your hospital tank. It sounds like you are a new reefer, look up saltwater hospital tank on You Tube. hope this will help you under stand. You need to treat remaning fish with cuppramine.
 
Sorry to hear that you lost your fish...powder blues are very prone to ich...

I'll try an get a DIY diatom filter write up...but it will take bit of time...look for a vortex diatom filter in your area, maybe a fellow reefer in your area has one...or you may find one for sale online...they can be hard to find.
 
Can you explain how to do this
Sure, you use the Rubbermaid tote as your tank and use one of those hang on the back filters. Add a heater and a power head for circulation and there you go instant hospital tank, cheap. Typically you can add a piece of sponge to the hob filter that has seeded for a while in your tank to get the good bacteria in your tank, but in your case I assume the infected tank is the only place where you could seed the sponge and that would only help spread the infection not help it. Also get some prime to help with ammonia since you won't have any liverock in the tank. Hospital tanks stay empty of décor and liverock since it would soak up the medicines making it difficult to keep the recommended dosage. Many people place pvc pieces in the tank to give the fish a place to hide. Also a ammonia alert badge would not hurt either. You would need to do frequent water changes to control parameters even with using prime. I know it sounds like a lot but it is a good idea to keep this stuff on hand. Also never use this equipment in your display tank since you will be using copper and could reinfect your tank. Lastly, do not use anything from your display tank for this set-up either. Everything needs to be dedicated.
 
Hospital tanks aren't necessarily the first and only response. Having gone thorough this situation quite a bit over the years, all options are risky - and each has advantages and disadvantages. In my experience, and this is just my specific circumstances, I've found it best to just leave the fish where they are, making sure they're comfortable/stress-free and well fed with healthy diet items. The only change I make when ich is present, is to feed them medicated ich food and sometimes dose reef-safe Ich Attack medication, depending on how bad it is. I'm still not sold on the medicated food or ich meds for their skin. I do have confidence in the feeding though - feeding healthy foods that are the particular fish species' food staples, like various types of dried seaweed along with frozen and quality dry foods for Tangs a few times a day and ensure the tank has all the creature comforts such as caves, crevices, hiding spots, good water quality, etc.

I've found more often than not, that going this route provided the best chances for survival. The ich might persist for weeks or months (on and off) depending on the severity of the initial infection and number of fish in the tank. But, over time if the fish are overall happy, the ich cycle reaches a point where all the fish have developed enough immunity and lack of stress to break the cycle so that the ich can't find a single host to maintain their numbers and then die out. I've had reef tanks where ich was present, but then never came back - years later.

Using hospital tanks are a pain. You have to stress out your fish with the retrieval from the main display, possibly damaging/destroying other things in the process. Once you retrieve the fish, then you have the issue of keeping your hospital tank's parameters stable - assuming it's not a permanently established aquarium, etc. The only time I've seen hospital tanks work consistently effective is when it's well established and permanently setup for just that purpose.
 
IME Garlic Extreme by Kent will boost the immune systems of the fish. If you catch it early. When I see any fish flash I add it to the food. If I see any white spots I add it directly to the tank per the instructions on the bottle. I believe quarantining only adds stress to the new fish thus weakening it more. 4 tangs, over 10 years with no ICH. Maybe it's my water chemistry but it works for me.

Good luck!
 

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