Ick or velvet?

[yovertenezaca]

I got this hippo tang recently from absolutely fish, it appears to have ick after about 2-3 days of getting him. But today at night I was inspecting him and his white spots turned into faded spots? Don’t know what going on. Could it be that the ick dropped?
I have 2 clownfish
A wrasse
5 green chromis
Tiger goby
1 fire fish
1 dwarf Pygmy angelfish
1 royal gamma
A yellow tang on its way.
In a 200 gallon tank that’s Been up for 2 years now.
The first picture is the after abs the second the before.

 

[blaxsun]

It doesn't look like velvet. Don't add any more fish until you figure out what you're dealing with. If you have a quarantine or isolation tank, you should get that ready in case you need it.

 

[vetteguy53081]

With ich you can count the dots as in this case
Treatment will be in a quarantine setting for 40 days at 80.5 degrees using coppersafe at therapeutic level 2.25-2.5 along with monitoring with use of a reliable copper test kit. Do not use api brand

 

[tgrick]

It's ick. Velvet looks like the fish was sprinkled with salt. You have a few options, live with ick or treatment. If you decide to treat the main tank needs to go fallow for a few weeks. Ask or lookup details.

 

[Jay Hemdal Verified Community Expert]

I got this hippo tang recently from absolutely fish, it appears to have ick after about 2-3 days of getting him. But today at night I was inspecting him and his white spots turned into faded spots? Don’t know what going on. Could it be that the ick dropped?
I have 2 clownfish
A wrasse
5 green chromis
Tiger goby
1 fire fish
1 dwarf Pygmy angelfish
1 royal gamma
A yellow tang on its way.
In a 200 gallon tank that’s Been up for 2 years now.
The first picture is the after abs the second the before.

Welcome to Reef2Reef!

That is probably ich. What happens is that early in the infection, all of the parasites are the same age. That means they drop off to reproduce at the same time. Their offspring return and the numbers of parasites can increase. Eventually, their reproduction gets out of sync and you'll see spots all of the time.

This is going to be difficult to treat in your situation. Is there anything you can do to delay the yellow tang's arrival?

As mentioned, copper, in a treatment tank is one option (you'll need to move all of the fish over though). You then would need to keep all of the fish out of the tank for 45 to 60 days. Hyposalinity is another option, but neither can be done with invertebrates present.

There are "reef safe" medications on the market, mostly they are "ich safe" as well though. There is also "ich management" - you buy a big UV sterilizer, siphon the bottom of the tank each night (to try and remove the reproductive forms of ich) and hope that it dies back enough for the fish to fight it off on their own.

Jay

 

[Dom]

Welcome to Reef2Reef!

That is probably ich. What happens is that early in the infection, all of the parasites are the same age. That means they drop off to reproduce at the same time. Their offspring return and the numbers of parasites can increase. Eventually, their reproduction gets out of sync and you'll see spots all of the time.

This is going to be difficult to treat in your situation. Is there anything you can do to delay the yellow tang's arrival?

As mentioned, copper, in a treatment tank is one option (you'll need to move all of the fish over though). You then would need to keep all of the fish out of the tank for 45 to 60 days. Hyposalinity is another option, but neither can be done with invertebrates present.

There are "reef safe" medications on the market, mostly they are "ich safe" as well though. There is also "ich management" - you buy a big UV sterilizer, siphon the bottom of the tank each night (to try and remove the reproductive forms of ich) and hope that it dies back enough for the fish to fight it off on their own.

Jay

Based on the inventory list, this appears to be a FOWLER tank. Wouldn't hypo-salinity be effective?

 

[Jay Hemdal Verified Community Expert]

Based on the inventory list, this appears to be a FOWLER tank. Wouldn't hypo-salinity be effective?

Yes - that would be fine for a FOWLR. I was just thinking the OP had inverts in there. I mostly see MFWLR - Mainly Fish With Live Rock (grin). It seems a lot of folks have a FOWLR, but then add snails and softies....

Jay

 

[Dom]

Yes - that would be fine for a FOWLR. I was just thinking the OP had inverts in there. I mostly see MFWLR - Mainly Fish With Live Rock (grin). It seems a lot of folks have a FOWLR, but then add snails and softies....

Jay

I hadn't considered inverts.

 

[yovertenezaca]

Hello everyone, thank you for all the responses, I have a lot of coral like frogspawn, goniopora, moni, brain coral and a lot of invertebrates. I tried contacting the biota group by email to delay the order but no luck yet. I have a hospital tank but my only concern is that once it goes back in he is just going to get attacked by the ick again.

 

[yovertenezaca]

Here are some pictures of him today, I woke up and the ick was gone came back from school and it’s back.

 

[Dom]

Hello everyone, thank you for all the responses, I have a lot of coral like frogspawn, goniopora, moni, brain coral and a lot of invertebrates. I tried contacting the biota group by email to delay the order but no luck yet. I have a hospital tank but my only concern is that once it goes back in he is just going to get attacked by the ick again.

This is why you must remove all fish and treat in a hospital tank. With a fallow tank (no fish) the parasite will starve as there isn't any fish to host them.

 

[yovertenezaca]

This is why you must remove all fish and treat in a hospital tank. With a fallow tank (no fish) the parasite will starve as there isn't any fish to host them.

How big of a tank do u think I need.

 

[Dom]

How big of a tank do u think I need.

I'm not sure.

You don't necessarily need a tank. Any food safe container would work.

I don't think you need a 200 gallon hospital tank. Perhaps a 120 gallon loaded up with PVC so there are plenty of hiding places.

The aggravation you could spare yourself if you quarantined. Lesson learned, huh?