Hello fairly new at reefing and fish tanks currently having an ick out break. Was dosing my 2 cardinals for a few days and this morning they were dead and now today I caught my coral beauty and wanna treat her but I’m using super ick cure and it says to do a 25% water change and add filter back on but I would like to treat her with the medicine. Bad idea to do the water change and dose the meds or should I start with all new water ?
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Sorry for your troubles. Are you sure it is ich? Velvet kills quickly and is sometimes confused with ich. Pictures would help.
Super ick will not eradicate ich, you'll need to treat with copper in a QT for 35 days at therapeutic levels. You'll also need a good test kit such as the hanna checker. Good news is that copper treat both ich and velvet.
Is this a new tank? new fish? what are your water parameters? More information would also be helpful.
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Polylab medic worked for. Plus bumping up the heat to 84degrees. I even went the extra step and added a 10w uv sterilizer.
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Increasing the temperature is not effective against marine ich it is more for fresh water ick. The temperature needs to be raised much higher than 84 degrees to be effective... Also polylab wont eradicate ich from your system.
I can’t take pics at the moment lights already off but my parameters are
Calcium is 410
Alk is 9
Salinity is 1.26
Phosphates .25
I was thinking maybe velvet but the guys at my lfs said ick and recommended super ick cure gonna go by the fish store tomorrow and get something that treats both
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Be careful if you use that super ICH cure stuff. To be honest I find it a lot more toxic than effective. If you have any corals or other invertebrates in your system. Definitely don’t use it. It will for sure kill them. Your cardinals probably ended up dying from the super ICH cure stuff. Never dose any types of medication like that in your main display. I would set up a quarantine tank and slowly dose copper. Or just let the fishes immune system try and fight the ICH. Make sure your keeping your tank clean lower nitrates and phosphates do fish are less stressed.
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Yea I didn’t specify I am dosing the meds in a quarantine. I’m trashing the super ich hasn’t done me any good so far. I did dose kick ick in main tank when I noticed more fish showing symptoms and not having the time to catch and quarantine.
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If you are able, get your hands on some copper. Get your QT set with fresh saltwater salinity and temp match to your tank, predose with copper then transfer your fish into that QT. You want to start low level copper (1.0 if copper power) and ramp up to 2.0ppm. Ramp-up should be 48-72 hours but can be accelerated if the fish is in a rough shape.
Once at therapitic level, continue for 30 days. WC as needed but make sure to bring the new water to theraputic levels before you add it to the tank so the copper levels don't drop.
Once at therapitic level, continue for 30 days. WC as needed but make sure to bring the new water to theraputic levels before you add it to the tank so the copper levels don't drop.
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I've only ever used copper power so I can't compare. As for dosing, once you're at 2.0ppm level it needs to be maintained for the 30 duration. Anytime you do a WC make sure to bring the new water to 2.0ppm before adding to the tank.
Also I would check the dosing on cuprimene I would check the directed dozing as it may not be 2.0ppm
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I treat all my angelfish with Cupramine and gradually increase copper levels over 3-4 days. Cupramine therapeutic levels are .50ppm not 2.0ppm.
So no higher than .50ppm coppers for velvet?
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.50ppm minimum and .65 maximum. Raise over 3-4 day period. Best to split doses between am/pm too.
