Ick!

[AydenLincoln]

Help! I think my dottyback has ick and it’s gotten worse since getting the little guy yesterday this photo is terrible but it took me forever to get. I put him in a little bowl and floated it on top of the tank as a temporary qt. Can he survive until tomorrow morning is this a complete death sentence? Best products to use?

 

[bnord]

Glad you caught it and yes you can save him/her

need to know if it is flashing/rubbing its gills

sure others are going to join in here and ask for better picture - for better diagnosis - and they will be right

several copper based additives are safe and very effective - Coppersafe - Cupramine

lowering the salinity in the short term to 1.019 can help over night

Choices for place of treatment are; in the tank if and only if you do not have invertebrates in that tank (unlikely and a QT - hospital tank, which you don't have - yet, but can be set up very easily

are there other fish in the tank? if so they will need to be treated as well

don't worry, good prognosis if you can get a better diagnosis and quick treatment

 

[AydenLincoln]

Glad you caught it and yes you can save him/her

need to know if it is flashing/rubbing its gills

sure others are going to join in here and ask for better picture - for better diagnosis - and they will be right

several copper based additives are safe and very effective - Coppersafe - Cupramine

lowering the salinity in the short term to 1.019 can help over night

Choices for place of treatment are; in the tank if and only if you do not have invertebrates in that tank (unlikely and a QT - hospital tank, which you don't have - yet, but can be set up very easily

are there other fish in the tank? if so they will need to be treated as well

don't worry, good prognosis if you can get a better diagnosis and quick treatment

He was rubbing up against the rock. And he has only been in the tank about a day. The ick got worse I noticed it this morning/last night but I was hoping it wasn’t ick. I have a shrimp, 2 clownfish, and a damsel. Which have been really good.

 

[bnord]

Sorry to say, if it is Ich (sounds like it is from this distance) it has been introduced to the tank and a form of the parasite may have dropped off into the gravel/rocks and will likely infect the others fish

Still not disaster but you will have to catch and treat the other fish in a hospital that will be turned into a holding tank then QT for any other new fish. Or you can give up on the shrimp and or crabs and treat in the display tank - how old is your system?

The parasite will be present in the tank for up to 60 days, and any new fish that enter onto it will be potentially exposed - hence the need for the second tank

in the articles section and in the disease forums you can find out a lot more about this - Jay Hemdal or other will respond shortly and can round out the options

 

[AydenLincoln]

Sorry to say, if it is Ich (sounds like it is from this distance) it has been introduced to the tank and a form of the parasite may have dropped off into the gravel/rocks and will likely infect the others fish

Still not disaster but you will have to catch and treat the other fish in a hospital that will be turned into a holding tank then QT for any other new fish. Or you can give up on the shrimp and or crabs and treat in the display tank - how old is your system?

The parasite will be present in the tank for up to 60 days, and any new fish that enter onto it will be potentially exposed - hence the need for the second tank

in the articles section and in the disease forums you can find out a lot more about this - Jay Hemdal or other will respond shortly and can round out the options

Almost 2 months.

 

[bnord]

Nice -
personally - I hate to loose a fish, and you can save these guys, Ich is treatable, but some newly introduced diseases are less forgiving, Marine Velvet for one.
So an investment in a treatment holding system is well worth it. With your fish a 10 gallon bare tank with a inexpensive hang on filter, heater. screen top and no light - maybe an airpump and airstone is all you need

 

[vetteguy53081]

Could use a clearer photo as it may be velvet which I suspect. Fish with velvet will typically stay at the surface of the water, or remain in a position where a steady flow of water is present in the aquarium. As the disease progresses outwards from the gills, the cysts then become visible on the fins and body. Although these cysts may appear as tiny white dots the size of a grain of salt, like the first sign of Saltwater Ich or White Spot Disease, what sets Oodinium apart from other types of ich is that at this point the fish have the appearance of being coated with what looks like a whitish or tan to golden colored, velvet-like film . See if any of these apply to your dottyback.
Some symptoms of velvet are :
- Scratching body against hard objects
- Fish is lethargic
- Loss of appetite and weight loss
- Rapid, labored breathing
- Fins clamped against the body
- rapid breathing and mucus around the gills

 

[AydenLincoln]

Could use a clearer photo as it may be velvet which I suspect. Fish with velvet will typically stay at the surface of the water, or remain in a position where a steady flow of water is present in the aquarium. As the disease progresses outwards from the gills, the cysts then become visible on the fins and body. Although these cysts may appear as tiny white dots the size of a grain of salt, like the first sign of Saltwater Ich or White Spot Disease, what sets Oodinium apart from other types of ich is that at this point the fish have the appearance of being coated with what looks like a whitish or tan to golden colored, velvet-like film . See if any of these apply to your dottyback.
Some symptoms of velvet are :
- Scratching body against hard objects
- Fish is lethargic
- Loss of appetite and weight loss
- Rapid, labored breathing
- Fins clamped against the body
- rapid breathing and mucus around the gills

I think it might be velvet too.

 

[Lavey29]

I think it might be velvet too.

Or brook from the clownfish. Velvet kills pretty quickly. Brook takes a little longer but still treatable in a QT.

 

[Wick]

Could use a clearer photo as it may be velvet which I suspect. Fish with velvet will typically stay at the surface of the water, or remain in a position where a steady flow of water is present in the aquarium. As the disease progresses outwards from the gills, the cysts then become visible on the fins and body. Although these cysts may appear as tiny white dots the size of a grain of salt, like the first sign of Saltwater Ich or White Spot Disease, what sets Oodinium apart from other types of ich is that at this point the fish have the appearance of being coated with what looks like a whitish or tan to golden colored, velvet-like film . See if any of these apply to your dottyback.
Some symptoms of velvet are :
- Scratching body against hard objects
- Fish is lethargic
- Loss of appetite and weight loss
- Rapid, labored breathing
- Fins clamped against the body
- rapid breathing and mucus around the gills

i 2nd this. velvet spreads super fast as ich takes a much longer time. ( just had velvet and it took 2 to 3 days before my fish died)

 

[blaxsun]

i 2nd this. velvet spreads super fast as ich takes a much longer time. ( just had velvet and it took 2 to 3 days before my fish died)

You're fortunate. 25% of my fish were dead within 24 hours; a third within 48 hours.

 

[bnord]

I think it might be velvet too.

so what does the morning look like for your guys?

 

[Tamberav]

Take a better photo... he is in a bowl so just put the bowl under some white lights in your house for the pic.

 

[AydenLincoln]

Take a better photo... he is in a bowl so just put the bowl under some white lights in your house for the pic.

He died! So now I just have to QT the rest.

 

[bnord]

He died! So now I just have to QT the rest.

Good luck with h the QT. - you will not be disappointed in having it available in the future and if your dottyback DID have velvet, time is still of the essence for the remaining tank mates

 

[Wick]

You're fortunate. 25% of my fish were dead within 24 hours; a third within 48 hours.

might have been because of a cleaner shrimp that i had in there picking it off. ::shrug::

 

[vetteguy53081]

Now you have safeguards in place. Sorry to hear of loss