id / care for 2 corals please

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can you tell me what these are called and how to look after them please.

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I'm not sure about the piece on the right but the piece on the left appears to be a Silk Flower Tree Coral. Definitely one of the more difficult NPS corals. I've seen them sit and perish in my LFS. Where did you acquire them?

http://www.liveaquaria.com/diversden/ItemDisplay.cfm?c=2733+10&ddid=300077
at my local LFS where they know I am a newbie and said I only wanted easy corals! Someone on another forum suggested kenya tree / dendro / ***** coral. The one on the left has reduced to about half its size under the blue light - also had this on him which I have been advised to remove?

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I really don't think it can be the silk flower tree after reading about it - he wouldn't have sold me that when he was telling me that some of the hard corals I liked were hard to look after so I said I wanted something easy - this is is closer

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Both are non photosynthetic and will die without proper diet. Unless you have a dedicated system to give food many times a day, you will not get them to survive long. However, they may take a year to die.

At least one is a scleronephthea, not sure on the last pic of type, but looks to have a nudi on it that will probably eat it.

I would take them back. Although they will probably die at the fish store too. Sad these guys are sold to someone that asked and said they were new and wanted simple corals. I am so sorry.

Kenyan trees would be easy. Look for mushrooms too.
 
I missed the nudi on the first pic. I'm am sure that bright pink is a chilli that is not happy. I was hoping that I might have missed a cool new morph of softy though. They do have those nice neon great singularias now after all.
 
Chilis have a bit more red and different structure. However, they are all nps. I have a nice chili and if they are unhappy most I see go dark red not pink. FYI :)
 
the person on the other thread that identified it as a Alabaster Egg Cowrie thought the coral he was on was a leather?
 
These are octocorals which in some cases are considered leathers. What we as hobbyists give common names based on a specific family or order of coral. Within those families or orders can be very different indeed. These are also considered soft corals. However, those genus that you have are nps and either scleronepthea sp or dendronepthea sp.
 
Ok - so can you tell me exactly what care they would need to keep - would I need to add something to my water as well as feeding? I can't believe this has happened really - he seemed so knowledgeable and has been helping me all the way with my tank cycling. When I looked at other corals and he said they needed regular feeding - I said no as I am just getting used to my tank so he then showed me these. He also suggested I bought some frozen mixed food but thiught that was for the clowns I had just bought.
 
This is what my lfs said today - These are Neptheid soft corals, sometimes known as cauliflower corals. They don't require brightly lit conditions but benefit from regular addition of filter foods such as phytoplankton and small animal plankton.

Getting so confused now!
 
And now you should Google cauliflower corals... and notice hes pulling your chain and trying to make money off you.

They need no light and a lot of food... the ones you have that is.
 
I bought Super Fish Marine Mix - frozen food. I have just defrosted a third of a small cube and fed the tank - all my snails (that I haven't seen since I put them in a couple of weeks ago) came out as did my shrimps that usually hide behind the rocks. Is this what the corals will eat too?
 

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