Ideas for 75 gallon not ich magnets

[Cartoonfanboy]

Having suffered from ich before I am hesitant on any tangs what other fish are also ich magnets i should avoid?

 

[Lavey29]

A proper QT should help you avoid this issue.

 

[ZombieEngineer]

Quarantine or purchase pre-quarantined fish before adding anything to your display. If you don't add a fish with ich to your display you will never have ich at all.

What I would avoid are fish that are extremely sensitive to medicated quarantine procedures if you don'twant significant extra work. Examples include difficult to feed copper sensitive fish like Mandarins and leopard wrasse. These would require live food cultures over an extended 6+ week observational period to ensure an ich free display. These would be better purchased from someone like Dr Reef to avoid doing this yourself.

 

[EeyoreIsMySpiritAnimal]

Having suffered from ich before I am hesitant on any tangs what other fish are also ich magnets i should avoid?

If your tank has ich, the best defense is healthy fish ...

 

[Cartoonfanboy]

Quarantine or purchase pre-quarantined fish before adding anything to your display. If you don't add a fish with ich to your display you will never have ich at all.

What I would avoid are fish that are extremely sensitive to medicated quarantine procedures if you don'twant significant extra work. Examples include difficult to feed copper sensitive fish like Mandarins and leopard wrasse. These would require live food cultures over an extended 6+ week observational period to ensure an ich free display. These would be better purchased from someone like Dr Reef to avoid doing this yourself.

Thanks for the recommendation of dr reef

 

[i cant think]

IMHO, all tanks have ich it just needs a weak and unhealthy “target” before it shows.
It can come in on LR, Live Sand, Coral ect… you will never be able to fully avoid ich in the tank however you can avoid the outbreak with fat and healthy fish.
If your tank is 4’ long then look into foxfaces if you don’t mind the venomous spines. They shed their mucous layer every so often so they are almost immune to ich.

I’ve not faced ich in 11 years (So almost my whole time in this hobby), I have never QTd. I add healthy and fat fish to my tanks, if they eat great however if they don’t then I’ll use tricks in the reef tank to “help” them eat. I’ve kept about 35 fish give or take as most died for other reasons (The majority were due to ammonia). I currently have 19 fish, still don’t QT however most of these fish are 2 years old with me.

 

[nereefpat]

Without getting into a QT debate, hardy fishes for a 75:

Clowns & most other damsel species, although Chromis have their own issues
Hardy wrasses, like most Halichoeres
Orchid dottyback
Hawkfish
Cardinals, especially bangaii and pajama
blennies & gobies
dragonets
gramma
dartfish

 

[ZombieEngineer]

IMHO, all tanks have ich it just needs a weak and unhealthy “target” before it shows.

I’ve not faced ich in 11 years (So almost my whole time in this hobby), I have never QTd.

Ich is a moderate annoyance if it manages to get in and a weaker fish croaks.

The need to QT comes from Velvet, not ich. I bought what appeared to be a "perfectly healthy" mandarin from an LFS that was happily scarfing down mysis, worms, and fish roe and didn't QT it. 3 days later I lost every single fish in a 125g except for a single clownfish that made it through emergency FW dip and copper treatment. The resulting ammonia spike killed about half of my coral. Total loss in excess of $3000 of livestock.

 

[i cant think]

Ich is a moderate annoyance if it manages to get in and a weaker fish croaks.

The need to QT comes from Velvet, not ich. I bought what appeared to be a "perfectly healthy" mandarin from an LFS that was happily scarfing down mysis, worms, and fish roe and didn't QT it. 3 days later I lost every single fish in a 125g except for a single clownfish that made it through emergency FW dip and copper treatment. The resulting ammonia spike killed about half of my coral. Total loss in excess of $3000 of livestock.

This is another much like Ich. IMHO it will wind up in your tank anyway as that too can lay dormant on coral, rock and sand.

 

[snickers104]

Dr. Reef for sure

 

[ZombieEngineer]

This is another much like Ich. IMHO it will wind up in your tank anyway as that too can lay dormant on coral, rock and sand.

http://reefkeeping.com/issues/2004-07/sp/feature/index.php

That is not correct for velvet. Read the natural immunity section. Almost zero fish have any inherent immunity and only gain a short term immunity by intentional exposure followed by FW dips and copper to remove the parasites. A single specimen infected in your tank will wipe out the vast majority of your livestock in a matter of days from the point signs are visible.

Velvet doesn't just lie dormant in a tank without killing. Even the most disease resistant fish (like mandarins) can easily be infected by this one. I would be interested if you could find a single example of trophonts being found in a sample of aquarium water from a "healthy" tank. Pretty easy to do if you look as sand from your tank under a microscope.