I'm Not Sure it Gets Any More Scary Than This

[sowellj]

Good to hear. Mine were manageable with diminished lighting following the blackout. However, they took a turn for the worse over the weekend. My tank is in my office at work. I had to go in a bit today and see aerated water coming from the return lines. The return section of my sump was almost dry because the ato had timed out and did not reset. However, my temp probe was also in this section and was exposed to air ... which was at 70 or so. Consequently, the heaters came on .... tank was at 90. Fish ok, sps not so much. The dinos apparently loved the elevated temp and came back in force. Grrrr. This is a roundabout way of saying decreased temp may slow them down a bit too.

 

[Salty1962]

Crossing my fingers for ya Man! It does look allot better.

 

[Asonitez]

I had the same thing. I did a 1 week blackout during which time I started a targeted vodka dosing regime. Basically at the end of the first week the vodka had started out competing the Dino's and red stuff. I started running lots of carbon and doing weekly water changes during which time I would vaccum the sand. I ran my skimmer wet and used filter bags. 3 weeks in 200 gal volume and they. Ever came back I slowly weaned off vodka and switched to Red Sea color

 

[Birddog]

Sorry I have let this thread go dormant for the past week... I've had a very large project at work that started this past week that kept me busy for 14 hours a day trying to get it off the ground! Well overall the tank looks better , but the dino's are returning. Interestingly, dino's are almost completely confined to my frag rack and glass... i have no idea why!! Gonna work on it hard this weekend.

Vibrant.

I have been dosing 2x per week for approximately a month now at 1 ml per 10 gallons of water. Additionally dosing 3% peroxide daily at 1 ml per 10 gallons of water.

Crossing my fingers for ya Man! It does look allot better.

Thanks Salty... I definitely need to win this...I can understand how some bail from the hobby with these.

 

[sowellj]

Glad to hear its doing better for you. You are taking the same approach I am; hitting them with vibrant, H2O2, reduced photoperiod, extra bacteria (zeobac), and manual removal. Mine are much improved, but still there. For what its worth, I found running my tank a degree or two less helped as well.

On a different note, could you recommend a Charlotte LFS with a good selection of SPS?

 

[ReeferNoob77]

Would the peroxide have any negative effect on the Vibrant? I quit dosing peroxide when I started vibrant just in case.

 

[Willz]

Good luck generally doesn't work. [emoji3]

It actually worked very well for me on my new tank. I used manual cleaning, blackout, hydrogen peroxide and microbubbling. Three days later it looked 90% better. Continued H202 and two weeks later it is gone 100%. Good luck with your issue

 

[sowellj]

Would the peroxide have any negative effect on the Vibrant? I quit dosing peroxide when I started vibrant just in case.

I inquired about this on the vibrant thread and was told it would be ok to do both simultaneously.

 

[reefwiser]

I was talking about blackout alone. [emoji3]

 

[Willz]

I was talking about blackout alone. [emoji3]

Absolutely, I used this article as a blueprint:

http://www.advancedaquarist.com/blog/how-i-beat-dinoflagellates-and-the-lessons-i-learned

 

[Birddog]

Again thank you all for your thoughts and experiences... I had another long week at work (4:30a - 7:00p M-Sa) and finally have my project there off the ground. My reef project (Dino's) is better, but I'm not completely over the hump yet. Last Sunday I took some pretty drastic measures. Although I have Dino's throughout the tank their incidence / severity on my live rock and corals is relatively low. My frag rack was a Dino magnet and therefore I removed it and all the frags on it.

Yes this a photo with my frags in the toilet... pretty sad and distasteful, but I've got to regain control and my frag rack and frags on it would grow a hundred 3-4 inch Dino threads on a daily basis. (RIP RR Aussie Gold, Pink Lemonade, Pink Stylo, Blue Tenuis, BC Spainbow, PC Rainbow, RMF Jareds Rainbow, ASD Rainbow Milli, BC Pearly Cadaver )

Glad to hear its doing better for you. You are taking the same approach I am; hitting them with vibrant, H2O2, reduced photoperiod, extra bacteria (zeobac), and manual removal. Mine are much improved, but still there. For what its worth, I found running my tank a degree or two less helped as well.

On a different note, could you recommend a Charlotte LFS with a good selection of SPS?

Thanks for the input of a lower lower temperature set point. I have been employing this as well as lowering nutrients, shorter photoperiod, micro bubbling, short interval filter sock changes, manual removal, Vibrant and peroxide!

Would the peroxide have any negative effect on the Vibrant? I quit dosing peroxide when I started vibrant just in case.

Good morning RN77! I have been dosing Vibrant on Wednesdays and Sundays in the evenings, and daily with peroxide in the mornings. Not sure 100%, but I'm firing all barrels at it and starting to see a reduction.

It actually worked very well for me on my new tank. I used manual cleaning, blackout, hydrogen peroxide and microbubbling. Three days later it looked 90% better. Continued H202 and two weeks later it is gone 100%. Good luck with your issue

Thank you Willz!

Absolutely, I used this article as a blueprint:

http://www.advancedaquarist.com/blog/how-i-beat-dinoflagellates-and-the-lessons-i-learned

Me Too... It was the foundation of my approach

 

[Birddog]

On a different note, could you recommend a Charlotte LFS with a good selection of SPS?

Oh and I forgot about this... I have a number of what I consider to be awesome SPS (or at least they were before my issue) almost all are from on-line vendors, but a special few are from Nemo's Reef here in Charlotte. Chris and Kevin (the owners) are awesomely kind individuals and quite helpful and supportive. Occasionally they will have some incredible pieces of SPS.... it can be hit or miss, but they would be the only store I would recommend.

 

[Chelle's Ocean]

Not sure if you had anyone else mention thru off forum suggestions.. but have you looked into baker's yeast?
[dinos vs diatoms - there are several opinions and suggestions all over the web from what people try/fail try/succeed- but I always thought this one was an interesting tip to keep in the backpocket- and if I ever encountered, I would give a try]

If someone already mentioned then please disregard
Following along for update

 

[Birddog]

Ahh, it's a week later and just two days ago I was about to quit. Yep walk away from one of my few passions. Me versus Dino's and they're whipping my back side. I've never bowled in my entire life, but I hear the local lanes have an evening league for a washed up has been like me. Maybe, just maybe I can be the next Ernie McKracken and I'll look good in a polyester bowling shirt. Yea that's what I'm gonna do I'm gonna buy a top of the line bowling ball ... clear with a rose in the center of it, then I can convert my tank into a display case for my ball when I'm not at the lanes !

My 4" mini colony of BC June Ruby pretty much dead, my 5" colony of Hawkins really getting hit hard, my 7 " colony of RR Aussie Gold, and other large colonies of Garf Bonsai, Cali Tort, RMF Rainbow Milli, ASD Rainbow all the same. Zoas are closing up, chalices are ok, but starting to be affected and my plate...well I'm not sure it's going to make it. I have a beautiful luxurious mat of Dino's and they're outa control. Starting to think as well that maybe I should keep the tank going and grow this stuff for profit.... I mean it's so thick and rapid growing that I can start a toupee company for aging follically challenged bowling wanna be's like me. I've dosed vibrant through this past Wednesday and peroxide every morning. Just about anything I do seems to encourage their proliferation. So before I decided to wale the entire setup into the street, convert it into a bowling ball display case or some other creative use (I'm bordering on psychotic with the $$$ spent on the set up and corals... can you tell?) I ordered and Fed Ex'd a bottle of Dino X. Pulled my carbon and GFO last evening, changed the program of my Radions and dumped the prescribed dosage in last evening after lights out.

I'm holding my breath, but what do you know... I came home from work today and not a single entrapped bubble of Oxygen and coral colors (what's alive) have improved. Can it actually be that easy and start to happen that fast. I may not survive much longer.... what's the world record for holding ones breath??

Current Parameters;
PO4 .02
NO3 4
Ca 450
Alk 8
Mg 1400

 

[Birddog]

I've made just one dose of Dino X on Friday evening and the next dose is scheduled for this evening immediately after lights out. The only thing that's really banged my Dino's down has been my initial blackout, and now it appears Dino X is having an excellent effect as well. Yesterday afternoon at the end of the photo period I had some growth and bubbles, but today that has been reduced even further. I'm still holding my breath, but I may have a solution to my issue. Some of the reviews of Dino X have been mixed dependent upon the biotype of Dino, and it's potential impact on corals, but at this time it's all positive

 

[cale0721]

I've made just one dose of Dino X on Friday evening and the next dose is scheduled for this evening immediately after lights out. The only thing that's really banged my Dino's down has been my initial blackout, and now it appears Dino X is having an excellent effect as well. Yesterday afternoon at the end of the photo period I had some growth and bubbles, but today that has been reduced even further. I'm still holding my breath, but I may have a solution to my issue. Some of the reviews of Dino X have been mixed dependent upon the biotype of Dino, and it's potential impact on corals, but at this time it's all positive

How's the Dino's now?

 

[Birddog]

How's the Dino's now?

Good evening Cale! It's quite depressing.... came home from work about an hour ago to 4-5 inch dino threads growing off my LR, sand and corals... I'm just about done

 

[Birddog]

Curious if anybody knows due to the nature of Dino's and how they survive in a dormant state, is it necessary for me to throw everything into the trash can, or can i still sell the APEX with the probes, Vortec pumps, return pump, sump, skimmer etc? At this point I'm assuming a total loss... it gonna kill me to toss a 20 eye rainbow crush, other high end chalices, acans, SPS etc etc

 

[sowellj]

I feel I may be at a bit of a stalemate with mine. I quit peroxide, vibrant, etc as it really didn't do much. I have been dirtying the tank up by feeding heavy, buying pods, and dosing phyto. Also I am trying to get rock rubble/sump muck from other tanks to boost biodiversity.

Next step is sanded removal. If that doesn't work, I may try the nuclear option, bleach dosing. There is a thread where some people are having some success dosing small amounts of bleach.

 

[sowellj]

Look into bleach dosing. If you are at the tank break down stage there is not much downside. It's discussed in the last third of this thread.

https://www.reef2reef.com/threads/d...ible-cure-follow-along-and-see.253917/page-89