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Randy Holmes-Farley

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See my poll here on a potential new type of two part:

https://www.reef2reef.com/threads/attributes-of-an-improved-to-part.324511/

from it:

The alkalinity part of two part additive system can generally be formulated with bicarbonate and/or carbonate. Bicarbonate gives a slight pH lowering effect and carbonate gives a pH boost, and any mixture of them can be used to get any desired pH effect in between.
But those are not the only choices. Hydroxide can also be used, and food grade sodium hydroxide is inexpensive. The pH boost is quite a bit higher than for carbonate (about 2x), and the concentration can be made much higher since it is much more soluble than sodium bicarbonate or carbonate.

For manual dosing, such a product might not be a good choice with too rapid of a big pH boost.

Today, however, dosing pumps have become so pervasive that such a product can easily be used and could have substantial benefits over existing two parts.

Additionally, I think any current manufacturer of two part systems could likely swap out the carbonate and bicarbonate and swap in hydroxides with no reformulation needed (stressing "I think"). So your favorite company could easily come out with a new version, and the new versions could be made more concentrated, if desired (at the least, there'd be less cost to ship less water).
 
Very interesting
 
Randy, I know you’ve used a lime slurry with vinegar in the past (or continue to). You’re suggesting here a home made liquid dosing additive made with lime and vinegar? Have you done this? At what concentrations? Do you have a recommendation? Does it stay fully in solution until dosed?
 
Randy, I know you’ve used a lime slurry with vinegar in the past (or continue to). You’re suggesting here a home made liquid dosing additive made with lime and vinegar? Have you done this? At what concentrations? Do you have a recommendation? Does it stay fully in solution until dosed?

I'll start a new thread on it later today, but the substitution is sodium hydroxide for sodium carbonate/bicarbonate. No vinegar. It makes a homogenous liquid like a normal two part.

There are a ton of food grade sodium hydroxide resellers. Amazon has a bunch:

https://www.amazon.com/FDC-99-Pure-...2&sr=8-7&keywords=food+grade+sodium+hydroxide
 
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I like that it's more concentrated, but pure lye can be dangerous, certainly more so than the soda.

Yes, you need to be careful with it, both solid and liquid. :)
 

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