Injured fish Help!

[newreef1]

I’ve had this fish for a few weeks. It was swimming and eating fine, nice and healthy. A few days ago I noticed it’s not coming out, saw it was injured, most likely by my blue angelfish which is now been housed at the LFS. I removed my injured fish yesterday in a 5 gallon tank, added one dose of Kanaplex, air stone, heater. No filter, figured I’d just do WC, every couple days to avoid any contamination from filters etc. Jt hasn’t been eating since it got injured. Am I correctly treating it? Is Kanaplex good for injuries/infections that can happen due to injuries. Should I dose twice, I believe I can “safely” give 3 doses or also a dose every two days until better. I also have API general cure or am willing to buy anything you recommend. First time treating an injured fish, any and all help appreciated!

 

[newreef1]

Here are some photos. @vetteguy53081 @Jay Hemdal help please!

 

[vetteguy53081]

I’ve had this fish for a few weeks. It was swimming and eating fine, nice and healthy. A few days ago I noticed it’s not coming out, saw it was injured, most likely by my blue angelfish which is now been housed at the LFS. I removed my injured fish yesterday in a 5 gallon tank, added one dose of Kanaplex, air stone, heater. No filter, figured I’d just do WC, every couple days to avoid any contamination from filters etc. Jt hasn’t been eating since it got injured. Am I correctly treating it? Is Kanaplex good for injuries/infections that can happen due to injuries. Should I dose twice, I believe I can “safely” give 3 doses or also a dose every two days until better. I also have API general cure or am willing to buy anything you recommend. First time treating an injured fish, any and all help appreciated!

Ouch - very superficial injury. i would run filter for added oxygen and collection of suspended waste without carbon
Kanaplex is good and will take at Least 2 days to begin taking effect on the fish. Yes= Dose every 48 hours and monitor ammonia level with a reliable test kit

 

[newreef1]

Ouch - very superficial injury. i would run filter for added oxygen and collection of suspended waste without carbon
Kanaplex is good and will take at Least 2 days to begin taking effect on the fish. Yes= Dose every 48 hours and monitor ammonia level with a reliable test kit

I appreciate the quick response, I was very stressed. Ok makes me feel better, I dosed yesterday so will add second dose tomorrow, if I do a WC, should I account for the lost portion of dose 1 or just give 2nd dose?

 

[newreef1]

I appreciate the quick response, I was very stressed. Ok makes me feel better, I dosed yesterday so will add second dose tomorrow, if I do a WC, should I account for the lost portion of dose 1 or just give 2nd dose?

I added a large air stone, it’s only 5 gallon of water but a large air stone for that reason, i have a fluval 207 but I haven’t seem to have very good luck with it in the past as a QT tank addition so decided to leave it out this time and just go old school.

 

[vetteguy53081]

I appreciate the quick response, I was very stressed. Ok makes me feel better, I dosed yesterday so will add second dose tomorrow, if I do a WC, should I account for the lost portion of dose 1 or just give 2nd dose?

Dp water change at the end of first and succeeding 48 hour periods

 

[newreef1]

Dp water change at the end of first and succeeding 48 hour periods

Got it! Also no general cure? Will that help is added in addition or just stick to kanaplex?

 

[vetteguy53081]

Got it! Also no general cure? Will that help is added in addition or just stick to kanaplex?

One or the other. You can do the Kanaplex 3-4 doses change water and flip to General cure which has low level Metro but kanaplex is easily absorbed by the fish making it effective

 

[Celestion]

imagine how salt feels in a sore that size , them damels can be survivors

 

[Jay Hemdal Verified Community Expert]

Here are some photos. @vetteguy53081 @Jay Hemdal help please!

Blue velvet damsels are just about the meanest fish available. I’m surprised that another fish caused this much damage. I’d be suspicious that this is actually Uronema.

 

[newreef1]

imagine how salt feels in a sore that size , them damels can be survivors

Here are some photos. @vetteguy53081 @Jay Hemdal help please!

the little guy was a fighter but unfortunately he passed away. He swam and lived for a few days with this injury so fighter for sure.

 

[newreef1]

Blue velvet damsels are just about the meanest fish available. I’m surprised that another fish caused this much damage. I’d be suspicious that this is actually Uronema.

I’ve never seen uronema this bad, it can get to this stage?

 

[Jay Hemdal Verified Community Expert]

I’ve never seen uronema this bad, it can get to this stage?

Yes. The vaguely linear front angled lesion points to Uronema. Also, fish to fish injuries are almost always a result of multiple attacks, resulting in multiple injury sites, torn fins, etc. Uronema generally develops on single lesion on a fish’s flank.

Jay

 

[newreef1]

Yes. The vaguely linear front angled lesion points to Uronema. Also, fish to fish injuries are almost always a result of multiple attacks, resulting in multiple injury sites, torn fins, etc. Uronema generally develops on single lesion on a fish’s flank.

Jay

Will copper power treat uronema? I want to get the small chromis or anthias as a colorful schooling fish but am worried about uronema. If one fish is infected with uronema does it conatamiante the tank potentially harming the other fish. Is uronema a threat for tangs, fox faces, angels too?

 

[Jay Hemdal Verified Community Expert]

Will copper power treat uronema? I want to get the small chromis or anthias as a colorful schooling fish but am worried about uronema. If one fish is infected with uronema does it conatamiante the tank potentially harming the other fish. Is uronema a threat for tangs, fox faces, angels too?

Copper does not help. Chloroquine and formalin can help with external Uronema (usually seen in seahorse) Internal Uronema has no effective treatment once symptoms are seen. Presumably, oral metronidazole will control it if dosed by 1% in the food - but that would have to be done before the fish show the characteristic skin lesion.

 

[newreef1]

Copper does not help. Chloroquine and formalin can help with external Uronema (usually seen in seahorse) Internal Uronema has no effective treatment once symptoms are seen. Presumably, oral metronidazole will control it if dosed by 1% in the food - but that would have to be done before the fish show the characteristic skin lesion.

So it’s a gamble? Either you get healthy fish or they’re with uronema, it won’t affect other fish though right if one comes in with the disease?

 

[Jay Hemdal Verified Community Expert]

So it’s a gamble? Either you get healthy fish or they’re with uronema, it won’t affect other fish though right if one comes in with the disease?

Correct - I’ve only had one suspected case where internal Uronema may have infected a healthy fish. Uronema is found free living in many aquariums, most older aquariums have populations in them, they normally feed on bacteria.

 

[newreef1]

Correct - I’ve only had one suspected case where internal Uronema may have infected a healthy fish. Uronema is found free living in many aquariums, most older aquariums have populations in them, they normally feed on bacteria.

Great thank you so much!

 

[newreef1]

Correct - I’ve only had one suspected case where internal Uronema may have infected a healthy fish. Uronema is found free living in many aquariums, most older aquariums have populations in them, they normally feed on bacteria.

Hey Jay, quick question. When using copper power to treat ICH, should skimmer be on/off. I know to remove carbon and have temp 78-80, copper power should be at 2.2-2.3 ppm. i just forgot about the skimmer.

 

[Jay Hemdal Verified Community Expert]

Hey Jay, quick question. When using copper power to treat ICH, should skimmer be on/off. I know to remove carbon and have temp 78-80, copper power should be at 2.2-2.3 ppm. i just forgot about the skimmer.

Skimmers can be run during all medications, just don't collect skimmate (let it run back into the tank) for prazi or antibiotics. Copper power has no issues with skimmers