Instant Ocean or Reef crystals?

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Not sure which one I should be using. Tank isn't set up yet just trying to get an idea to get supplies all in order and ready to go.

The ultimate goal is to have a reef tank (lps and softies maybe). Should I use instant ocean or reef crystals for it?

And when can I add coral frags and such to the tank? (Clearly after it is cycled).
 
I'm currently using 2/3 IO to 1/3 RC. I originally was using all RC, but I didn't like the swings in alk and calc I was getting after a water change. The mix I now make is closer to the alk and calc I want in my tank. Note that I do dose alk and calc three times a day to maintain constant levels....I don't need the "super salts" to do what I do with dosing.
 
I'm currently using 2/3 IO to 1/3 RC. I originally was using all RC, but I didn't like the swings in alk and calc I was getting after a water change. The mix I now make is closer to the alk and calc I want in my tank. Note that I do dose alk and calc three times a day to maintain constant levels....I don't need the "super salts" to do what I do with dosing.

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I started with io and switched to rc. I went back to io because of the inconsistent alk and CA levels in rc.
 
You will have to dose with RC once you have a good amount of hard corals and or they get big.
 
The skeleton of coral is made out of calcium carbonate. Big hard corals will suck quite a bit of calcium and alkalinity out of the water. That is why people dose reef tanks.
 
Makes sense. How will I know when it's time to start dosing? Will the cal/alk start becoming unstable etc?
 
Makes sense. How will I know when it's time to start dosing? Will the cal/alk start becoming unstable etc?

If you have any hard corals then you will have to dose with something. Whether it be a 2 part or water changes, you're still replenishing the elements.
 
Alright, i havent decided on specific corals yet so i'll get that done first and see what each one needs to decide how i'll be dosing.

Is there a general rule of thumb for adding corals to a new tank? About how long after a cycle or is it dependent on other factors?
 
Alright, i havent decided on specific corals yet so i'll get that done first and see what each one needs to decide how i'll be dosing.

Is there a general rule of thumb for adding corals to a new tank? About how long after a cycle or is it dependent on other factors?
Other factors you want to be sure your Ca,Alk,Mag, are all stable most importantly for sps corals. no ammonia, no nitrite, nitrates barely detectable no phosphate.
 
I've been using RC for years now, which is supposed to have higher Cal.
Keep in mind though, even buying the same brand salt can vary from one batch to another.
For this reason, and to budget, I buy the 200g box when it's on sale at F&S, and I test that salt on first mix so I know what adjustments may be needed.
 
I have just bought a Red Sea max c250 and was hoping to get it up and running. How much does it normally cost to do this? That is for the water and 10 kg of live rock?

Thanks
 
Every tank is different, whether it's a 1000,000 gallon tank or a 5 gallon micro tank. Their are way too many variables to compare one tanks needs to another, when it comes to usage of many of the compounds from one company's salt vs another's. Any of the top brands will suit your needs and most will require you to add additives like calcium, even in a small tank. The more you add LPS, SPS and clams, the more calcium and other chemicals will be used up, even in a small tank.

Likes already mentioned above, no batch of new salt will have the exact amount as the last, so test, test, test........until your reef settles out, which can take months to even several years.

My recommendation, start out slow and stay slow, until you have a good amount of reef keeping knowledge. Please put your animals first, you second. You and your inhabitants will be happier !

Another one is, set up at least a 29 gallon quarrintine tank for not only fish, but also corals and clams, as all can carry pests and bad bacteria's. Also set up a smaller sick tank. If any fish gets sick, treat it then back to the quarrintine tank then to your display.

I know this is a lot of time and expense,but if only one fish in your display gets sick, it can kill all the others. Now weigh, the cost difference !

Anyway, there's nothing wrong rotating from any of the well known salt company's, and in that way, if one is low in any additive, the next may bring it up.
 
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Every tank is different, whether it's a 1000,000 gallon tank or a 5 gallon micro tank. Their are way too many variables to compare one tanks needs to another, when it comes to usage of many of the compounds from one company's salt vs another's. Any of the top brands will suit your needs and most will require you to add additives like calcium, even in a small tank. The more you add LPS, SPS and clams, the more calcium and other chemicals will be used up, even in a small tank.

Likes already mentioned above, no batch of new salt will have the exact amount as the last, so test, test, test........until your reef settles out, which can take months to even several years.

My recommendation, start out slow and stay slow, until you have a good amount of reef keeping knowledge. Please put your animals first, you second. You and your inhabitants will be happier !

Another one is, set up at least a 29 gallon quarrintine tank for not only fish, but also corals and clams, as all can carry pests and bad bacteria's. Also set up a smaller sick tank. If any fish gets sick, treat it then back to the quarrintine tank then to your display.

I know this is a lot of time and expense,but if only one fish in your display gets sick, it can kill all the others. Now weigh, the cost difference !

Anyway, there's nothing wrong rotating from any of the well known salt company's, and in that way, if one is low in any additive, the next may bring it up.

+1 with that. I was so happy that I had another tank going today because I had a tang shipped with ich. It was my frag tank, and I may have had to top it off with 10 gallons of rodi before adding it, but I'm glad I have it there!
 
Nicely put 427, but I'm more intregued by your screen name. It brings me back to the 60's when I was a motorhead. Are we talking 427 High Riser? And what wheels is that little beast in?
 
Thankyou for that information I will be taking it slow as I am learning there is A LOT to learn!
 

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