Introducing dinoflagellates on a coral

[shoelaceike]

If I got some coral ( some with rock attached) from a reefer or store who has had dinos in the past, can I introduce dinos into my tank this way?

If it would, would a coral dip help? Tia

 

[jadwv2210]

I would say it could definitely make dinoflagellates appear in your tank but I'm not sure if a coral dip would remove it. I dipped all of my corals before they went in the tank and I still got some algae growth that had to have come in on them since I started with dry man made rock.

 

[shoelaceike]

I'm much more concerned about dinos than algae. I have never had them and I hope not to......so what can I do to prevent introducing them.....I did not see any Dino's in the tank when I got it....I asked and he said he has dealt with it in the past

 

[Vaughn17]

I had a moderate infestation of the snotty brown dinos in my sps tank. When I started dosing potassium nitrate, a month ago, they disappeared. Dipping doesn't seem to stop dinos, but it sure will kill other nasty hitchhickers, depending on what dip you use.

 

[Wiz]

I have heard that Hydrogen peroxide will kill dinos but I am Not sure. It is most definitely a way to introduce them. Dinos are water borne and will grow on almost anything therefore it is nearly impossible to add anything without risking it

 

[shoelaceike]

How do you know if a store has them? I'm sure most at least have had them...

 

[saltyfilmfolks]

If I understand dinos correctly, we already have them(like cyano). The problem being if we give them a good home to live and procreate in.
Randys article.
http://reefkeeping.com/issues/2006-11/rhf/index.php

I would assume a ph balanced ro dip would explode them and peroxide dip should boil them.
Great question though.
Im only 6 -7 years in and Ive never had a dino outbreak(maybe I have good PH. weird

 

[shoelaceike]

If I understand dinos correctly, we already have them(like cyano). The problem being if we give them a good home to live and procreate in.
Randys article.
http://reefkeeping.com/issues/2006-11/rhf/index.php

I would assume a ph balanced ro dip would explode them and peroxide dip should boil them.
Great question though.
Im only 6 -7 years in and Ive never had a dino outbreak(maybe I have good PH. weird

I've heard similar but I want be sure before I throw these in my tank

 

[Wiz]

I'm sure like you said most LFS have probably had them at some point. The more I learn about dinos the more I'm convinced that they are present almost everywhere. Just requires the right conditions for them to explode. I had them myself and got rid of them by continually cycling them out with a siphon. I did not treat with anything particularly it was just constant Removal every 20 to 30 minutes for a month or more. I conveyed this to a fellow forum member here and he set up a constant syphon on his tank and got rid of them the same way.

 

[saltyfilmfolks]

I'm sure like you said most LFS have probably had them at some point. The more I learn about dinos the more I'm convinced that they are present almost everywhere. Just requires the right conditions for them to explode. I had them myself and got rid of them by continually cycling them out with a siphon. I did not treat with anything particularly it was just constant Removal every 20 to 30 minutes for a month or more. I conveyed this to a fellow forum member here and he set up a constant syphon on his tank and got rid of them the same way.

Wiz did you have a high fish bio load? Just looking for a correlation. Ive never had a a lot of fish esp big ones.

 

[Wiz]

At the time that I had dinos I did not. I most certainly do now. At that time maybe four small fish in my 40 breeder with a 20 sump/fuge

 

[saltyfilmfolks]

Weird. Poop has good nutrition. as its a plankton Id guess coral, wild live rock, in fish guts(poo) or maybe wild sourced foods.

 

[FL_Reefer]

Dino is contained within saltwater naturally, it just decides when it wants to show its nasty self.

 

[shoelaceike]

So you don't think I should concern myself? I don't see any Dino's on the coral

 

[FL_Reefer]

No I wouldn't, like said before I believe all stores have probably dealt with them at some point in time as well as slot of reefers.

 

[Wiz]

It is my opinion that you deal with that every time you add anything to your tank. As long as you have no extreme reason to think that it is contaminated I don't see why bother yourself.I myself had dinos and I now know of a bunch of people that did as well. Although it is absolutely no fun it is not the end of the world

 

[Wiz]

I also have sold a bunch of frags and macro algae to other Aquariasts with no ill effect to their systems.

 

[brandon429]

its correct about their universal risk when xferring materials among tanks. there are high-dollar cam, ultra resolution pics of simple fish swimming about the tank with dino's literally stuck to their slime coats. anything moved between tanks is a vector. I agree with not buying from obvious dino infestations, but for the subtle or questionable ones we must simply act fast (in any of the chosen ways) upon first id. don't wait for a takeover.

 

[DeeBee]

In my experience dipping did absolutely nothing to kill the dinos on coral. I broke down my tank because of an infestation and moved all the corals to a holding tank. Before placing in new tank I dipped each coral in a succession of CoralRx followed by a dip in Bayer. Nothing else from the old tank was placed in the new one and within a few weeks the brown snot from hell was back - and this was with zero bioload except for coral.

The problem is that there are over 1500 species of marine Dinoflagellates and they all react differently to different treatments.

 

[brandon429]

I can 100% agree with that.

DNA happenstance. dance and we may pay or not

any claimed fix for dinos cannot be repeated among 10 tanks in a row online with the unique variables we all present, if that's not the case link it on up

I already see the ATS master cure threads, they have just as many dino persistent ATS tanks as they do stated starve cures.

same for our peroxide. ive zapped 100 tanks with it online via pics and type from the tanker...some pan out some don't.

dinoxal...the current approach id recommend most. has some wins, some losses

Any formal claims about pH support or osmotic changes winning over dinos should be able to be predicted, ran, and follow up measured in the next dino tank posted. then repeated until most tanks are cured and our percentage of saves goes up.

as of now I rate every single cure known 20% only, and even that much is based on initial biomass allowed to compile as we stare in wonder. The claims to not do anything and stop water changes and let the mass build are wrong, since this isn't about nutrients (or nutrient controllers could get ten tanks in a row)

import the DNA, do the dance. that's how dinos works.

see that DNA manifest, rip clean your whole tank you have a chance improved vs sitting there in amazement watching that mass grow. I cannot convince past ten percent of people to rip clean a tank for any rehab lol not just dinos.