Is MicroBacter7 algaecide?

[JSully_94]

With the recent, but suspected, revelation that Vibrant is indeed algaecide, what is the consensus on Brightwell’s product, MicroBacter7?

Is it also algaecide or does it contain algaecide within it?

Link to Brightwell’s product: https://www.brightwellaquatics.com/products/microbacter7t.php

 

[MichaelReefer]

@Randy Holmes-Farley

 

[Nate Chalk]

Yes please let me know!

 

[Jib]

I don't think one of it's touted benefit's is algae reduciton is it? If not, I suspect it's not algaecide.

 

[Nate Chalk]

I don't think one of it's touted benefit's is algae reduciton is it? If not, I suspect it's not algaecide.

The clean version touts cleaning surfaces s

 

[blaxsun]

When it comes to Brightwell, I seriously doubt it. I've used a lot of their products (and still do), and I've never had any issues other than maybe set myself up for higher expectations than the product might deliver.

 

[Jib]

The clean version touts cleaning surfaces s

Yeah, that one I've never used. I will say I've used MB7 very liberally and have not seen any impacts to my tank. I add 1ML per gallon to my tank after every water change. With that liberal of a dose an algeacide would wreck my tank...

 

[Nate Chalk]

Im also a big user of mb7, id just like to know. I use with wc’s

 

[moz71]

If look at @taricha studies I believe proven to be just bacteria or all characteristics of bacteria and not Algecide. I would trust it is not.

 

[Nate Chalk]

Thats all the verification i need and ive been using it with no problems.

 

[taricha]

No.
I screened every bacterial product (including MB7, MB Clean) I could get my hands on when looking at Vibrant.
None other than Vibrant looked similar to the algaecide Algaefix.
I haven't seen anything (but vibrant) without the clearly labeled ingredient look like it had a polyquat algaecide.

 

[taricha]

see here.

I wanted to cast the net a little wider and see if there is any other bacterial products I could grab that might give the same result - maybe help understand a false positive or show that Vibrant is not unique among "bacterial" labeled products in containing something that looks like QAC.

(each product was diluted 1/10 with tank water to eliminate extreme pHs that might exist in the bottles)


The apparent QAC were detected in AlgaeFix (1) and Vibrant (12) and no others. Here's the list of products:
1 AlgaeFix Marine
2 Waste Away
3 MicroBacter 7
4 MicroBacter Clean
5 Seachem Pristine
6 Fritz Zyme 460
7 Bacto Therapy, Fauna Marin
8 BioSpira (nitrifier)
9 One and Only (nitrifier)
10 EcoBalance, Dr Tim
11 Refresh, Dr Tim
12 Vibrant

Why is the method for detecting quaternary ammonium compounds seemingly detecting it in Vibrant (very effective at kiling algae) just like it detects it in AlgaeFix, but finds it no other claimed bacterial product?

Anyone got another suggestion for a bacterial product that might either contain QAC, or have a similar false-positive causing potential?