Is my method OK?

johnbr · Nov 24, 2018

Big G said:
Yes fresh water dip for 3-5 minutes: https://www.reef2reef.com/threads/video-how-to-do-a-freshwater-dip.286639/#post-3487082

I've used both Cupramine and Copper Power. Copper Power is a larger dose which gives you a bit more "wiggle room" Highly recommend the Hanna HL Copper Checker. And Copper Power's dosage info is right on as far as strength is concerned. But it's unnecessary for dosing up to 2.5 ppm as shown on the bottle. Therapeutic range for chelated coppers is 1.5-2.0 ppm. So I usually shoot for 1.75ppm and it works great.

You can leave the salinty level at 1.020 for now. I usually leave it there during copper and don't start raising it until the copper is mostly done if the fish are handling the copper well. Or if they are showing some effects from the copper, I raise the salinity after completing the copper treatment.

Best to treat them all or risk having a "Thyphoid Mary" swimming with them later and re-infecting them.

Thanks a lot.

Any tips on how to boost the medication in the food. I have metroplex and focus

Brew12 · Nov 24, 2018

johnbr said:
Thanks a lot.

Any tips on how to boost the medication in the food. I have metroplex and focus

I wouldn't worry about medicating the food.
You already have the Hanna checker and a copper product on hand, right?

johnbr · Nov 24, 2018

Brew12 said:
I wouldn't worry about medicating the food.
You already have the Hanna checker and a copper product on hand, right?

Hey @Brew12

Good to have you in the thread brother.

So far I have:

Cupramine
Ruby Rally
Metroplex
Kanaplex
Paraguard
Copper Power
Hanna Copper

Thanks

Brew12 · Nov 24, 2018

johnbr said:
Hey @Brew12

Good to have you in the thread brother.

So far I have:

Cupramine
Ruby Rally
Metroplex
Kanaplex
Paraguard
Copper Power
Hanna Copper

Thanks

You are in fantastic hands with @HotRocks

I would follow his advice (I think he has given it anyway) and immediately start adding the Copper Power. I would get up to 1ppm ASAP and then get to 1.75ppm over the next two day.

johnbr · Nov 24, 2018

Brew12 said:
You are in fantastic hands with @HotRocks

I would follow his advice (I think he has given it anyway) and immediately start adding the Copper Power. I would get up to 1ppm ASAP and then get to 1.75ppm over the next two day.

Thanks a lot guys. Finishing to setup everything.

HotRocks · Nov 24, 2018

Brew12 said:
You are in fantastic hands with @HotRocks

I would follow his advice (I think he has given it anyway) and immediately start adding the Copper Power. I would get up to 1ppm ASAP and then get to 1.75ppm over the next two day.

Agree 100% ^^^^. I like copper power better than cupramine personally.

johnbr · Nov 25, 2018

Good morning guys,

@Brew12 @4FordFamily @Big G @HotRocks

I’m about to start the hole regiment the baths and copper.

Already setup everything.

Just one question. What’s the dosage for rally for 90 minutes bath? Just follow the instructions in the back of the bottle?

Couple pics.

HotRocks · Nov 25, 2018

1 teaspoon of rally per gallon for a bath.

QTs look good!

johnbr · Nov 25, 2018

HotRocks said:
1 teaspoon of rally per gallon for a bath.

QTs look good!

Thanks a lot.

Wish me luck I’m super nervous.

HotRocks · Nov 25, 2018

johnbr said:
Thanks a lot.

Wish me luck I’m super nervous.

Good luck!!!

Been there. You get used to it after a while...

Make sure you have a heater and airstone in the bath.

johnbr · Nov 25, 2018

HotRocks said:
Good luck!!! Been there. You get used to it after a while...

Make sure you have a heater and airstone in the bath.

Have both and a small power head to keep water flowing.

Just to summarize:

5 min ro/di water (matched PH) bath
90 minutes 1 teaspoon per gallon ruby rally bath
copper at 1.0ppm copper power for the first 24 hours and raise 0.25 ppm every 24hrs until reach 1.75ppm

Check?

Brew12 · Nov 25, 2018

johnbr said:
Have both and a small power head to keep water flowing.

Just to summarize:

5 min ro/di water (matched PH) bath
90 minutes 1 teaspoon per gallon ruby rally bath
copper at 1.0ppm copper power for the first 24 hours and raise .025 ppm every 24hrs until reach 1.75ppm

Check?

Looks like a very solid plan.

Edit: Oops.. I'm sure you meant it, but 0.25ppm every 24 hours, not 0.025ppm.

johnbr · Nov 25, 2018

Brew12 said:
Looks like a very solid plan.

Edit: Oops.. I'm sure you meant it, but 0.25ppm every 24 hours, not 0.025ppm.

Yeah Yeah...

I setup a camera to keep my eye on them 24/7 =D

Victoria M · Nov 25, 2018

John, I love how you labeled everything. You got this.

johnbr · Nov 25, 2018

Fresh water dip DONE.

Ruby Rally IN PROGRESS

johnbr · Nov 25, 2018

Guys already started copper power. I am a little bit confused. The bottle says 1 oz. per 20 gallon.

How much in a 30 gallon should I start? The bottle says to go 2.5ppm

I honestly don’t know where to start.

@HotRocks @Big G @4FordFamily @Brew12

HotRocks · Nov 25, 2018

The bottle does say 2.5ppm. However the therapeutic minimum is 1.50ppm. Most of us choose to treat at 1.75ppm in order to make sure we are safely above the minimum. 2.5ppm is too high IMO. I would only raise the level that high if I couldn't clear the affliction at 1.75ppm (which has never happened). This should help: (I do need to update this as I am now starting off with predosed QTs at 1.0ppm and increasing .25ppm per day for 3 days)

If I were you I would also predose or administer your initial dose at 1.0ppm then increase the .25ppm per day for 3 days (split into am/pm doses). This will have you therapeutic in 48hrs and to your target within 72.

https://www.reef2reef.com/threads/ratios-for-dosing-copper-power.385871/

johnbr · Nov 25, 2018

HotRocks said:
The bottle does say 2.5ppm. However the therapeutic minimum is 1.50ppm. Most of us choose to treat at 1.75ppm in order to make sure we are safely above the minimum. 2.5ppm is too high IMO. I would only raise the level that high if I couldn't clear the affliction at 1.75ppm (which has never happened). This should help: (I do need to update this as I am now starting off with predosed QTs at 1.0ppm and increasing .25ppm per day for 3 days)

If I were you I would also predose or administer your initial dose at 1.0ppm then increase the .25ppm per day for 3 days (split into am/pm doses). This will have you therapeutic in 48hrs and to your target within 72.

https://www.reef2reef.com/threads/ratios-for-dosing-copper-power.385871/

So one ounce is 2.5 for 20 gallons. If I have 30 gallons and I need 1 ppm how much in ml would that be? I’m so sorry for the dumb question but i literally suck on math.