Why should fish have to fight off ich etc when we can prevent them?
Squidward. As I said I don't want to eliminate ich because that would be very un healthy for my, or anybody's fish.
Remember I was here when we, Including me invented quarantine. There was no one in the hobby when I started because I bought the first fish available in New York in 1971. (Germany started a few years earlier) I am not new at this and have used every method you have ever heard of, some so outrageous you wouldn't believe it.
I learned after 50 years, not 2 or 3 years how to keep fish healthy. I also learned by trial and error, not on the internet which wasn't invented. I also realize it is a hard concept for many people to grasp.
Don't you think by now if I felt quarantining was better I would do that? I want my fish to be healthy, spawn if they can and only die of old age with no help from me. We don't find quarantined fish dying of old age because their immune system is gone from either extended quarantine or medication which kills their gut bacteria which directly controls their immunity unlike ours.
When we lose our immunity from cancer drugs we look and feel lousy and don't generally live to long.
So those fish can live a few years as long as they are never exposed to anything unlike healthy fish in the sea that can and do live with and eat every pathogen with no problems.
As you may know, the immunity of any organism will ebb over time when that system is not exposed to disease organisms. There can be no disease organisms in a quarantined system so they are not exposed to them.
My system depends on pathogens living alongside fish just like in the sea. My fish "NEVER" die or suffer from "ANY" pathogens.
But also what people don't get is that you can't just buy fish and throw them into your tank. They will probably die which is why so many people have a problem and say my system doesn't work.
If your fish got sick you did not use my system because immune fish can't get sick. I can throw any sick fish in my tank and that fish may die. But nothing will happen to my fish. Guaranteed.
Last week I posted I added 2 ich infected cardinals to my tank which I do all the time. I welcome the new parasites as they boost the immunity of my fish while not infecting them. Just like in the sea, my fish all probably have a couple of parasites on them just as all fish in the sea have and so do Humans. We all carry parasites. Are those parasites bothering you right now?
My system depends on "real" food. Something you can't feed to your fish. Live worms and fresh or freshly frozen clams not from a LFS. I feed these foods specifically for the live bacteria and maybe parasites from clams and new fish.
The only old healthy tanks use some form of a natural system. There are I think 3 or 4 on this forum including Lasse, Sub sea, Atoll etc.
As for a scientific study I posted many times new studies on how gut microme control fish immunity.
Any scientist would look at the statistics and see that there are no old, healthy quarantined tanks. Why not? Are your fish spawning? (Fish that can spawn in a tank and not a clown fish)
Only very healthy fish can spawn and virtually all female fish in the sea fill with eggs, male present or not.
I am getting kind of tired of people saying how my fish are suffering from being bitten by parasites when I have probably the oldest, healthiest fish in the oldest tank on any forum in any country you can find.
It really doesn't make sense to me and it is getting annoying as this has been going on since the 80s.
Now someone is going to come on here and tell me that I am killing my fish. Probably someone with a tank they started last Tuesday.
