is the cycling over?

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hello everyone, i have had my 125 tank up for 6 days now and all i have in it is 100lbs of live sand and about two day ago i put a 11lb live rock in it from a lfs. last night i checked ammonia,nitrate,nitrite,alkalinity and Ph. from what i can tell everything is where it needs to be except for the Ph and it is around 7.4. every where i look they say it takes like up to three weeks for the cycling to get over is this so or has it even started? also i put a shrimp in the tank for 4 days and took it out thursday.
 
It's hard to put time to it because some go a little faster because of introduced bacteria......but I'd say around a month. You'll need to measure for ammonia and Nitrate. No need to test for nitrite, only if you want to watch it appear and disappear.
 
when i checked the ammonia it was very good and the nitrate was very good as well. so do i need to wait or can i try and put some coral and a fish in
 
What does very good mean? We need to see some actual values. Also did you see the ammonia come up then back down? Ammonia should be zero nitrites zero and nitrate levels dropping if cycle is done.

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I agree with testing after a month. You should be thinking of adding more rock. 11lbs. For a 125 won't help with cycling your tank. You can look at dry rock to add to your tank & your live rock will seed it & in time will spread. I have ordered dry rock from marcorocks.com. It's about $3 per lb & free shipping.
 
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I have serious doubts it is cycled. What did you do to provide a source of ammonia to kick the cycle? Some people add a product like Dr. Tim's One & Only to accelerate the cycle process, and that method requires a fish or a few drops of pharmacy grade ammonia (not house hold ammonia with all kinds of junk added). The other accepted method is to toss in a small pealed shrimp from the grocer. The first is faster and never stinks up the house. You haven't cycled unless you have had an ammonia / nitrogen compounds spike. This is because this spike leads the bacteria growth which corrects the chemistry that was the spike. The Dr. Tim's method is often so fast and effective you never catch the spike. I cycled my tank that way a long time ago. Then, after that eco process has happened, when your ammonia and nitrogen compounds are not-detectable you have cycled.

Sorry, but there is more news you are going to enjoy about as much. You really need about 10 times that much living rock in your tank. That can start as base rock (dried out living rock) to save money now that you have some real LR. If you do achieve a cycle in your tank you still do not have enough "housing space" to harbor enough bacteria to handle your tank's future life forms.

Do not despair, nothing in this hobby is fast, and unfortunately not much is inexpensive. As for the nothing is fast, when you stop and think about it that is exactly one of the reasons for a reef tank... to help us maintain a grip on reality in our fast paced crazzzzy world. Another reason is to have a hobby that is relaxing.. so .. relax.. slow down and smell the sea water. ;) There are a thousand things you can and will be doing over the next few weeks as you prepare to have a tank with a living reef in it that YOU are "almost" in control of.

Seriously, the hardest part for me too was to slow down and enjoy the process, but you must. If you don't you will make several serious mistakes and actually end up taking much longer getting your reef in any condition to maintain coral, shrimp, crabs, hitch-hikers, and fish. The absolutely fastest way is to slow down and read and ask questions and follow expert advice.

...And, be for warned, your fish store may not have your best interest at heart nor the expert skills you would like to think they have. Keeping fish and coral in display tanks long enough and in a condition for purchase can be a slightly different science as providing them a long term home. However, there are good fish stores (LFSs) who do have plenty of expert knowledge and will want you to be a successful reefer and earn your business that way. Just be careful as you learn which are which. A chain store which sells hardware and clothing or all kinds of pet supplies where a person who sold shoes last week is your sales person is not likely to be a good choice for advice, if you get my drift.

Here at Reef2Reef you will be exchanging information with guys and gals who have healthy reef tanks as their passion. AND many enjoy sharing information with new reefers just about as much as they do tweaking their reef. I am one of those several weird people.... ;)
 
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Sorry about not putting all the info, I will get the numbers when I get home and post them. I have about 70lbs of dry rock and then 11lbs of live rock with 100lbs of live sand. I did the shrimp for 4 days. Last night was when I got the test kit so ir was the first test.
 
Sorry about not putting all the info, I will get the numbers when I get home and post them. I have about 70lbs of dry rock and then 11lbs of live rock with 100lbs of live sand. I did the shrimp for 4 days. Last night was when I got the test kit so ir was the first test.

LOL.. that really does make a difference... ya think ..;)..

So did you see an ammonia spike? Did the tank cloud up and clear?

Ok this part is subject to several opinions. My method at this point IF you are sure you have had a cycle is to add a clown fish. They are really hearty about being able to make it through the last stages of a cycle. It is too early for shrimps, some snails, coral, and most other fish. Clowns act weird so don't go by that. But if it eats and continues to eat you are moving along, they are pigs. Still take it slow.. the same still absolutely applies. I'd get a small clown. After it is clear it is going to survive, then I'd add another clown that is a good bit larger. That clown will be more expensive so is why to start with a smaller one. The larger will take control and become the female, the smaller the male. They are A sexual. Clowns are really interesting and strange creatures. Nice looking dorky fish. Plus this is the time to add your clowns and to make it a pair. There is always some risk with adding the larger clown, but it usually works out after a few minutes of deciding who is in charge.

After that take it slow and pick your life forms carefully. Never add more than a fish at a time and wait between them a week or so. Some will tell you to add more fish and not to worry, but there are many reasons to not do that. You should wisely grow your live stock very carefully, enjoying each and every step as a passion.

It is not about fish... it is about a diverse group of life forms that make up a reef. .. It is EXCITING to purchase and establish those life forms. Taking your time stretches out the joys of learning the most about each and every life form you add, relish it.

Make it a passion to learn the most you can about each and every life form you are thinking about adding, you will often change your mind during that process, and that is GOOD. It is much better than purchasing an expensive creature and watching another make a quick meal of it a few minutes after your put it into your tank.

So... this is your last and only chance to back away from a serious addiction... but I suspect it is too late.

I ♥ my reef !!!!
 
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Yes after I put the shrimp in the next day I almost could not see from one side to the other and it was this way till the day after I took it out. Now it is cleared up alot when I get home I will c how much more it has cleared up and also on the live rock there was some zenia and it looked bad when I put the rock in and now it is starting to look some better.
 
Here is what I got
Ammonia 0
Nitrate 0-5
Nitrite- 0
Ph-7.0-7.4
The water is just a little cloudy but not much and the Zenia look even better today if that helps u guys st all
 
If you've also put dry rock in the tank, you're far from having a cycled tank. Sit back and relax for a good month. And while waiting, figure out why your pH is unacceptably low. What salt are you using and at what specific gravity?
 
If you've also put dry rock in the tank, you're far from having a cycled tank. Sit back and relax for a good month. And while waiting, figure out why your pH is unacceptably low. What salt are you using and at what specific gravity?

It could be cycled, just not have a strong community of bacteria in the freshest rock. To accomplish that in IMO you should introduce some life forms to cause a bacteria population growth.
There are several opinions and working methods to accomplish this. The bottom line is bacteria need resources.
 
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The salt is at 1.023 and it has been there for 7 days now. I have got lights coming today so I am hoping that will help. Going to test the water again today. Like I said I am new to this so all the help is very much needed
 

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