Is this a Bad Paly?

[Martyd]

It looks like some type of Protopaly. It's growing quickly and I am worried.

 

[Rob&Gab]

it looks like them. forsure. i no dang right those are not grandis palys.

 

[glb]

What's a bad paly?

 

[A. grandis]

Yeah, they're not Palythoa grandis. There is a grandis on the left side of the picture.
Their discs are bigger and normally they've got some white and brown patterns.
There are some that have green on their discs, just beautiful!!

Those, in the center, are a Palythoa sp. and most of them do grow fast.
I'm not sure what you mean by "bad guys", but some Palythoa spp. do push other zoanthids around.
They have an aggression behavior, and such peculiarity among the zoanthids will allow them to overgrow some of the more shy zoanthids.
I prefer to keep Palythoas on their own rocks for that reason. Some of them are just amazing with special colors.

I would just keep an eye on them, once they are already on one of the rocks.
If they are still easy to remove, I would transfer them to their own "pedestal" and place it on the sand.

Grandis.

 

[A. grandis]

What's a bad paly?

I would think that "bad palys" would be those Palythoa spp. that some times overgrows other zoas.
Please correct me if I'm wrong...

Grandis.

 

[Rob&Gab]

i no what tye you have and i dont like them there called sea foam palys. i have afew pictures they will take over your rock work in a matter of months.

 

[RKLion]

ya they suck

 

[tuna_bullet]

i throw mine in the sump.....litterally throw them...i pull them with tweezers and toss them in the fuge and sump they still grow on the cheato and the live rock hell you can throw in the yard they will probably live a week.....

 

[Ike]

Yeah, they're not Palythoa grandis. There is a grandis on the left side of the picture.
Their discs are bigger and normally they've got some white and brown patterns.
There are some that have green on their discs, just beautiful!!

Those, in the center, are a Palythoa sp. and most of them do grow fast.
I'm not sure what you mean by "bad guys", but some Palythoa spp. do push other zoanthids around.
They have an aggression behavior, and such peculiarity among the zoanthids will allow them to overgrow some of the more shy zoanthids.
I prefer to keep Palythoas on their own rocks for that reason. Some of them are just amazing with special colors.

I would just keep an eye on them, once they are already on one of the rocks.
If they are still easy to remove, I would transfer them to their own "pedestal" and place it on the sand.

Grandis.

Those are most likely Protopalythoa and not a Palythoa.

I would highly suggest getting them out now, they will overtake and outgrow just about anything.

 

[A. grandis]

Those are most likely Protopalythoa and not a Palythoa.

I would highly suggest getting them out now, they will overtake and outgrow just about anything.

All Protopalythoa spp. are now called Palythoa spp.
That's the new scientific nomenclature.
They don't overtake if they are isolated.

Grandis.

 

[Martyd]

Those are most likely Protopalythoa and not a Palythoa.

I would highly suggest getting them out now, they will overtake and outgrow just about anything.

They are out of the tank and safely on their own rock in my nano

 

[Ike]

All Protopalythoa spp. are now called Palythoa spp.
That's the new scientific nomenclature.
They don't overtake if they are isolated.

Grandis.

I can't find anything to support this. Not saying it isn't true, but would like to see how this came to be. Any links?

There were some studies done years ago that suggested that Protopalythoa could be erroneous. I can also recall some experts in the field calling the findings of this study and that suggestion "implausible", something which I agree with at the time.

 

[goodtimes]

I have hundreds of these. They started as a few polyps on a rock.

 

[Dylan J.]

Local people around here call them Texas trash lol. No idea why but they easily over run a tank. All it takes is one polyp to break off and attach itself behind a rock that u can see until its to late lol

 

[socal619]

people give them away for free along with pink and golds, i wouldn't put either in my tank id rather throw them away

 

[A. grandis]

Again, there is nothing wrong in having them.
As long as we keep them on their own rock.
The aren't ugly at all IMO.

Grandis.

 

[socal619]

Again, there is nothing wrong in having them.
As long as we keep them on their own rock.
The aren't ugly at all IMO.

Grandis.

they arent ugly buy they will take over your tank, and they are really poisonous. people have gotten really sick trying to get rid of them, better safe then sorry

 

[A. grandis]

they arent ugly buy they will take over your tank, and they are really poisonous. people have gotten really sick trying to get rid of them, better safe then sorry

I know all that... Well, they did the wrong way too, so…
Any zoanthid could give you trouble if you try to get rid of them wrongly. Any of them.
Not trying to prove any point here. Just the fact that such zoanthid isn't a pester say, like Majanos and Aiptasia.
If you isolate them they most likely won't take over. That's a fact. I'm not trying to say anything more than that.
I particularly like some of the colors of those Palythoa and keep them carefully. Just don't feed them too much too!!!!!! LOL!! :wink:

Grandis.

 

[92CornerReef]

can these release palytoxins that is very harmful and even deadly?

 

[Dsnakes]

Wow, super old thread ;Woot

can these release palytoxins that is very harmful and even deadly?

Yes these can in certain scenarios - cutting/pulling/I’ve even heard of people boiling rocks of them (probably the worst). Just be careful and use eye protection, gloves, and keep your mouth shut if fragging.