Is this brown jelly?

[jj991987]

I got this torch a week ago and it had been doing great until yesterday. It closed up now I see this. What should I do? Should I dip it?

 

[vetteguy53081]

I got this torch a week ago and it had been doing great until yesterday. It closed up now I see this. What should I do? Should I dip it?

May be algae and a way to tell is to is to give gentle blasts with a turkey baster to see if it easily dislodges. Siphon it up if not with a 3/8" tube and see how coral responds.
Location is not good for this coral and should be at upper third of tank under medium light and water flow and fed 2X per week with mysis shrimp. Also assure calcium is not less than 400 for these guys

 

[jj991987]

May be algae and a way to tell is to is to give gentle blasts with a turkey baster to see if it easily dislodges. Siphon it up if not with a 3/8" tube and see how coral responds.
Location is not good for this coral and should be at upper third of tank under medium light and water flow and fed 2X per week with mysis shrimp. Also assure calcium is not less than 400 for these guys

Ok. Thanks. I have a calcium test kit coming in the mail. I will move it and see if it helps.

 

[jj991987]

May be algae and a way to tell is to is to give gentle blasts with a turkey baster to see if it easily dislodges. Siphon it up if not with a 3/8" tube and see how coral responds.
Location is not good for this coral and should be at upper third of tank under medium light and water flow and fed 2X per week with mysis shrimp. Also assure calcium is not less than 400 for these guys

When I blow on it it comes off

 

[The Australian Reefer]

Whatever you do. DO NOT blow it with a turkey baster. If it is brown jelly and gets into the flow of your tank and lands on another euphyllia or fimbriaphyllia you will get brown jelly on that one aswell.

I would say it is brown jelly. If that is the case theres no real saving it. I would cut that polyp off and throw it away and dip the healthy on in seachems ''the dip". It is iodine base, so is antibacterial

 

[vetteguy53081]

When I blow on it it comes off

Great. See if it returns next day or now but getting this coral to more flow will keep it clear and reduce stress it is currently under.

 

[jj991987]

Great. See if it returns next day or now but getting this coral to more flow will keep it clear and reduce stress it is currently under.

This is the flow from a couple days ago is it not enough?

 

[jj991987]

Whatever you do. DO NOT blow it with a turkey baster. If it is brown jelly and gets into the flow of your tank and lands on another euphyllia or fimbriaphyllia you will get brown jelly on that one aswell.

I would say it is brown jelly. If that is the case theres no real saving it. I would cut that polyp off and throw it away and dip the healthy on in seachems ''the dip". It is iodine base, so is antibacterial

I dipped it, I blew on it when it was in the dip. I didn't see this comment until after doing that. Do I just take a knife and cut it off?

 

[vetteguy53081]

This is the flow from a couple days ago is it not enough?

I hear sound but no image. Like most large polyp stony corals, a torch coral benefits from moderate water flow. The polyps will remain retracted and under-inflated if the water current is too fast because the large flowing polyps are prone to rip and tear in high or ultra-high current conditions.
The torch coral is a photosynthetic coral which has a relationship with symbiotic zooxanthellae that lives inside its tissues that converts the light into energy which feeds the coral. While its possible to keep a torch without any feeding, mysis shrimp will satisfy them
The best placement for a torch coral is in a location that gets moderate water flow and moderate-intensity lighting.

 

[The Australian Reefer]

I dipped it, I blew on it when it was in the dip. I didn't see this comment until after doing that. Do I just take a knife and cut it off?

Just keep an eye out on the other euphyllias in your tank. If you have a dremel that will work of a hack saw. Because the skeleton is like bone you wont be able to cut it with a knife

 

[Lavey29]

If it is BJD then that head would be dead in 24 hours. If it isn't dead it is some built up algae there.

 

[Rmckoy]

If it is bjd the only way to save the rest of the coral or colony is to cut that one effected head off . This was very common with torch corals and why still to this day I will never add another to my tanks .
A bone cutter will be needed to cut it off . Below the head where the polyps are .

 

[vetteguy53081]

I dipped it, I blew on it when it was in the dip. I didn't see this comment until after doing that. Do I just take a knife and cut it off?

No need to cut it up and react . Relocate and provide what was mentioned and you should see improvement. This is a coral that will challenge the most experienced hobbyist but given the proper light and flow can be hardy

 

[violetjones]

I got this torch a week ago and it had been doing great until yesterday. It closed up now I see this. What should I do? Should I dip it?

What are your phosphates and nitrates at?

Also what is your alkalinity and calcium level?

i have a torch garden of 8 torches. Lots of trial and error and had many deaths until I learned this after speaking to many experienced reefers with torches and coral farmers who grow torches for a living:

1. You need two part dose your aquarium to maintain calcium around 440 and alk around 8-9. Nitrates around 10-15 and phosphates around .05-.1 these are ideal conditions for euphyllia and any major deviation you will start seeing death.

2. Too much flow the head will pop off, too little flow the head will pop off. There is a very specific level of flow with a small margin of error otherwise…death.

3. They need to eat. I spoke to a high end torch cultivator that grows holy grails for 2k a head. He is insists that you need to feed torches Benepets once a week. Not reef roids (too fine) and not mysis (too thick). Turn off the flow for 20 mins and drench the torch with benepet paste. It takes about 15 minutes with no flow for them to eat.

4. i did the cipro thing - in the tank and also dipping. It will not help anything if you are not doing the above steps 1-3.

Since doing all these steps I have not lost a torch in 7 months and in fact are actually growing multiple heads that I can frag!

 

[Pistondog]

You might dose cipro to the tank if you confirm bjd.
.125 mg per liter for 3 doses, every other day.
Search on this forum for other cipro experiences.
I did this recently, it is a low dose and stops the progression.

 

[jj991987]

What are your phosphates and nitrates at?

Also what is your alkalinity and calcium level?

i have a torch garden of 8 torches. Lots of trial and error and had many deaths until I learned this after speaking to many experienced reefers with torches and coral farmers who grow torches for a living:

1. You need two part dose your aquarium to maintain calcium around 440 and alk around 8-9. Nitrates around 10-15 and phosphates around .05-.1 these are ideal conditions for euphyllia and any major deviation you will start seeing death.

2. Too much flow the head will pop off, too little flow the head will pop off. There is a very specific level of flow with a small margin of error otherwise…death.

3. They need to eat. I spoke to a high end torch cultivator that grows holy grails for 2k a head. He is insists that you need to feed torches Benepets once a week. Not reef roids (too fine) and not mysis (too thick). Turn off the flow for 20 mins and drench the torch with benepet paste. It takes about 15 minutes with no flow for them to eat.

4. i did the cipro thing - in the tank and also dipping. It will not help anything if you are not doing the above steps 1-3.

Since doing all these steps I have not lost a torch in 7 months and in fact are actually growing multiple heads that I can frag!

Here are my test on the water. I ordered a calcium test earlier today so will test asap. Also including another picture after I dipped it sechem reef dip