Is this ICH again?!

Dubs83 · Dec 10, 2018

Okay, quick back story. Spotted ICH a few weeks ago and treated with copper for 14 days at 2.0ppm. On the 15th day, fish were moved into a sterilized 40b and all seemed great for 10 days or so. No sign of illness, everyone is eating well and swimming in cramped but clean and sterile tank until my display tank cycles. I go away for 4 days and come home to this

None of the other fish show signs of it. Am I misdiagnosing? What am I doing wrong?

rock_lobster · Dec 10, 2018

yes indeed. Hippos are ich magnets

Crabs McJones · Dec 10, 2018

Ich copper treatment should last 30 days at therapudic levels. If at any time new fish are introduced or the level falls out of thereapudic range, the clock resets on the 30 days. why did you only do 14?

Dubs83 · Dec 10, 2018

So, should I treat with copper again? I’m using CopperSafe right now. Should I treat with something else? More effective?

miyags · Dec 10, 2018

The last picture sure looks like flukes to me.

cmcoker · Dec 10, 2018

miyags said:
The last picture sure looks like flukes to me.

I was thinking same. I'd do a freshwater dip and see if anything falls off. If so then treat all of them with a full treatment of prazipri

cmcoker · Dec 10, 2018

Crabs Mcjones said:
Ich copper treatment should last 30 days at therapudic levels. If at any time new fish are introduced or the level falls out of thereapudic range, the clock resets on the 30 days. why did you only do 14?

@Hotrocks and others have been using a 14 day copper with transfer to sterile qt with success and are recommending this course of treatment. He states in this thread that the protocol he uses was developed/adapted with help from Humblefish and 4fordfamily

https://www.reef2reef.com/threads/my-current-qt-process.483371/

Crabs McJones · Dec 10, 2018

cmcoker said:
@Hotrocks and others have been using a 14 day copper with transfer to sterile qt with success and are recommending this course of treatment. He states in this thread that the protocol he uses was developed/adapted with help from Humblefish and 4fordfamily

https://www.reef2reef.com/threads/my-current-qt-process.483371

Good to know, thanks

miyags · Dec 10, 2018

Watch this.

HotRocks · Dec 10, 2018

I don't think that's ich.

I would do a 5 min FW dip and see if any flukes dislodge.

https://www.reef2reef.com/threads/freshwater-dip.248898/

If so you can treat all fish in the tank with Prazipro. 2 doses 5-7 days apart with a 25% WC in between.

Dubs83 · Dec 10, 2018

Okay. Thank you!

Dubs83 · Dec 10, 2018

Okay. Moved some freshwater into a shallow container, matches temp and ph. Placed him in for 5 minutes and this is what happened.

This is him in the net

In the container. That’s just a burn mark behind him as I couldn’t find anything dark and shallow

When he/she swam off this is what came off

Flukes?

Reefahholic · Dec 10, 2018

Hard to tell from the pics. I’ll read exactly what you said about him tonight. About to leave for work.

Dubs83 · Dec 10, 2018

Reefahholic said:
Hard to tell from the pics. I’ll read exactly what you said about him tonight. About to leave for work.

Yea it’s those little black dots in the container. It’s the darkest thing I had but it came off after about 3 minutes. They’re not actually dark just casting a shadow due to the flash on my phone

Reefahholic · Dec 10, 2018

Sounds like flukes if they’re actually clear. If they’re not clear...we’d need better pics.

Send me one...I’ll put it under the scope.

Dubs83 · Dec 10, 2018

Let me take a closer look. I will if you’re serious lol

Dubs83 · Dec 10, 2018

After a closer inspection. It appears that they all have it. Ugh. This has been so stressful.

I did check the container again. They’re not clear but opaque. White in color.

HotRocks · Dec 10, 2018

Opaque sounds like flukes. Do they look like sesame seeds?

Dubs83 · Dec 10, 2018

I would say yes. They looked thin and flaky but the same size and coloration. After the bath, it almost looked like the fish was scarred but looking at him now, it looks like he has more.