Is this Ich on my Copperband ???

Quovadis Green · Nov 18, 2018

Quovadis Green said:
Very New To Hobby and up until the last 2 I added Tank no issues but now my Puffer eye is cloudy he isn’t eating and laying on bottom of tank . I do not have crabs or snails or even corals is there anything I can use to treat DT I don’t have setup for another tank I can try but that will take days and I’ve already lost one Niger Trigger

HotRocks · Nov 18, 2018

Quovadis Green said:
Very New To Hobby and up until the last 2 I added Tank no issues but now my Puffer eye is cloudy he isn’t eating and laying on bottom of tank . I do not have crabs or snails or even corals is there anything I can use to treat DT I don’t have setup for another tank I can try but that will take days and I’ve already lost one Niger Trigger

I wish there was a good answer. Time is against you. Do you have coral?

Quovadis Green · Nov 18, 2018

HotRocks said:
I wish there was a good answer. Time is against you. Do you have coral?

No coral what’s the safest and best way to treat the whole DT

HotRocks · Nov 18, 2018

Quovadis Green said:
No coral what’s the safest and best way to treat the whole DT

So is your tank a FOWLR?

Quovadis Green · Nov 18, 2018

HotRocks said:
So is your tank a FOWLR?

Yes Sir

Quovadis Green · Nov 18, 2018

Quovadis Green said:
Yes Sir

My fish are

2 Small Niger Triggers
1 Medium Blue Jaw Trigger Male
1 Porcupine Puffer
2 Small Yellow Tangs
1 Small Blue Hippo
1 Medium Powder Blue Tang

HotRocks · Nov 18, 2018

I wouldn't recommend this. Since it's a FOWLR you can dose copper directly into your DT.

If you go this route I would highly recommend you get a Hanna checker to monitor the Cu level since you will encounter absorption with you live Rock.

Keep copper therapeutic for 30 days

Philt56 · Nov 20, 2018

Also note you can never have any inverts after treating with copper even if the fish are cured and you know longer treat it. You can remove some from the water with various media but the rock will absorb it and there will always be traces that would kill inverts.

RtomKinMad · Nov 21, 2018

How’s the fish? Any updates?

Andrew Schubert · Nov 21, 2018

RtomKinMad said:
How’s the fish? Any updates?

Not sure if you are referring to mine, or Quovadis. No change in mine. The white lumps look to be about the same size, and haven't noticed really any new ones. So hopefully this is the worse it'll get on him, and it'll just be a recovery from the Lymph now. I did dose PraziPro, but haven't noticed anything 'falling' off. I really don't think he has/had flukes.

I can't really give him any extra vitamins as all he eats is live claims and black worms. So I've just been hand feeding him the blackworms 4x a day instead of the normal 3x, in addition to a live claim.

miyags · Nov 21, 2018

Ya, you got high jacked....I have seen many CBB with Lymph for some reason or another.Good water and food is all you can do.From your pictures his colors look good.Mine loves tiny pieces of raw shrimp.

Andrew Schubert · Nov 21, 2018

What is considered good water. My water has been at 0 nitrate and Phosphate. It was just a week ago I started slowly dosing Nitrate and Phosphate to the tank to get it up. My Nitrate is now at 4 and Phosphate still below 0.2.
Can't imaging that is what helped cause the Lymph, but its ironic it started showing up on the fish as soon as I started dosing it.

I'll have to try the raw shrimp. I'd do anything to be able to start weeding him off the blackworms. My wife isn't too thrilled having worms in her fridge

. Plus, its a pain in the butt having to pay for shipping to order them online. URRRRR!!!

miyags · Nov 21, 2018

Hell,my tank is never that clean.I think my nitrates were 22 and phos about 0.6. The cost of black worms, I don't spend that on me.

Andrew Schubert · Nov 21, 2018

miyags said:
Hell,my tank is never that clean.I think my nitrates were 22 and phos about 0.6. The cost of black worms, I don't spend that on me.

Here is where I get mine...

https://aquaticfoods.com/LiveBlackwormsM.html

How much do you buy when you get yours. I only bought the 1/4 lb as I didn't want them to all die before using them. But if they'll last longer then say a month, it definitely is a lot cheaper to get a larger order.

RtomKinMad · Nov 21, 2018

Andrew Schubert said:
Not sure if you are referring to mine, or Quovadis. No change in mine. The white lumps look to be about the same size, and haven't noticed really any new ones. So hopefully this is the worse it'll get on him, and it'll just be a recovery from the Lymph now. I did dose PraziPro, but haven't noticed anything 'falling' off. I really don't think he has/had flukes.

I can't really give him any extra vitamins as all he eats is live claims and black worms. So I've just been hand feeding him the blackworms 4x a day instead of the normal 3x, in addition to a live claim.

I was asking about yours and the others also. I’m glad yours is eating. I’ve also seen a lot of CBB with lymph. It should recover well. Let us know. Happy thanksgiving!

somethinq else · Nov 25, 2018

Its definantly not ich it looks more like lympho to me

Quovadis Green · Nov 25, 2018

RtomKinMad said:
How’s the fish? Any updates?

Well unfortunately I’ve lost all of my livestock in my 75 gallon tank. Only thing still alive is a damsel I put in the tank during the cycle process. This is a list of everything I lost. Kinda Don’t know what to do I didn’t have a Hospital tank set up so I treated the Entire Display Tank so I know I can never add invertebrates or coral which is okay because I was having a 220 Gallon Built but I’m scared because I just lost everything. Everyone says let tank go fallow for 76 days but here is my question what meds can I treat tank with even after this as a preventative measure weekly or daily so that ich or velvet never stand a chance again. Since I’ve already used the copper power can anyone tell me what they use on fish in there QT tank and maybe I can just let tank go fallow and the always dose the display tank with meds this was heartbreaking everyday to wake up to dead fish including my Puffer who I got the hand feed and has the biggest personality

2 Small Yellow Tangs
1 Small Blue Hippo
1 Small Powder Blue Tang
2 Small Niger Triggers
1 Medium Blue Jaw trigger
1 Porcupine Puffer
6 Clown Fish

Andrew Schubert · Nov 25, 2018

Quovadis Green said:
Well unfortunately I’ve lost all of my livestock in my 75 gallon tank. Only thing still alive is a damsel I put in the tank during the cycle process. This is a list of everything I lost. Kinda Don’t know what to do I didn’t have a Hospital tank set up so I treated the Entire Display Tank so I know I can never add invertebrates or coral which is okay because I was having a 220 Gallon Built but I’m scared because I just lost everything. Everyone says let tank go fallow for 76 days but here is my question what meds can I treat tank with even after this as a preventative measure weekly or daily so that ich or velvet never stand a chance again. Since I’ve already used the copper power can anyone tell me what they use on fish in there QT tank and maybe I can just let tank go fallow and the always dose the display tank with meds this was heartbreaking everyday to wake up to dead fish including my Puffer who I got the hand feed and has the biggest personality

2 Small Yellow Tangs
1 Small Blue Hippo
1 Small Powder Blue Tang
2 Small Niger Triggers
1 Medium Blue Jaw trigger
1 Porcupine Puffer
6 Clown Fish

Look into hyposalinity. I never heard of it until I was introduced to it for my last QT process. You lower the salinity significantly for a month that kills of any ich, but keeps the fish safe. Better then feeding copper which is actually poison to the fish. I would also get PraziPro Which is a safe need for treating flukes. Besides that, tell your time adding the fish back. Only add one or two at a time.

Andrew Schubert · Nov 25, 2018

Andrew Schubert said:
Look into hyposalinity. I never heard of it until I was introduced to it for my last QT process. You lower the salinity significantly for a month that kills of any ich, but keeps the fish safe. Better then feeding copper which is actually poison to the fish. I would also get PraziPro Which is a safe need for treating flukes. Besides that, tell your time adding the fish back. Only add one or two at a time.

Plus 3 tangs is prob too many tangs in a 75 gallon. Some say you shouldnt even put one tang in anything less that 120. I have 2 on my 120. Just got a third for Black Friday for only $15. Well see how it does. It's prob a 50/50 bet if the yellow tend will coexist at this point.

Quovadis Green · Nov 25, 2018

Andrew Schubert said:
Look into hyposalinity. I never heard of it until I was introduced to it for my last QT process. You lower the salinity significantly for a month that kills of any ich, but keeps the fish safe. Better then feeding copper which is actually poison to the fish. I would also get PraziPro Which is a safe need for treating flukes. Besides that, tell your time adding the fish back. Only add one or two at a time.

Okay! Thanks.. Now Do U just Run Hyposalinity For 1 Month ? Just asking and how low the LSF I think I bought the powder tang that killed my entire tank says he runs his whole system on salt level of like 0.16.