Is this ich or velvet??

[dabroli]

I’ve had velvet before and it looked worse than this, not sure if I have caught it early or the heavens blessed me with ich this time. Have a 10g hospital tank set up with copper power and both tangs going in for treatment, all other fish have yet to show signs of sickness

 

[nuxx Verified Sponsor]

Looks like ich to me.

Probably is your tank is now infected.

So after you take the fish out and treat them, they'll just get it again.

Lots of people live with ich in their tank, but you'd need to make sure the tank is large enough to suppress aggression and everyone is well fed.

 

[Sharkbait19]

Velvet can be best diagnosed from the behavioral symptoms - namely swimming into the flow and fast breathing. Post a video to help confirm.
That said, it does appear to be ich, and pulling all fish, treating with copper, and fallowing the tank is necessary for eradication.

 

[dabroli]

Velvet can be best diagnosed from the behavioral symptoms - namely swimming into the flow and fast breathing. Post a video to help confirm.
That said, it does appear to be ich, and pulling all fish, treating with copper, and fallowing the tank is necessary for eradication.

I will try to get a video, they’re behaving as normal, they even ate today. Tank has inverts, coals, anemones.. maybe I could purchase a new one to treat fish while this sits fallow? Would a UV sterilizer help?

 

[Sharkbait19]

If you are fallowing the tank, no need to worry about UV, as the parasite will be starved out.

 

[dabroli]

The video

 

[vetteguy53081]

I’ve had velvet before and it looked worse than this, not sure if I have caught it early or the heavens blessed me with ich this time. Have a 10g hospital tank set up with copper power and both tangs going in for treatment, all other fish have yet to show signs of sickness

Based on the size of the dots, this fish has ich.
You will need to place fish in Quarantine tank and treat with Coppersafe or Copper Power at therapeutic level 2.25-2.5 For a FULL 30 days (do not interrupt this 30 day period) monitored by a reliable Copper Test kit such as Hanna Brand- No API brand. Also monitor Ammonia levels while in quarantine with a reliable test kit and add aeration during treatment using an air stone.
The display tank will have to be kept fishless (FALLOW) for 6-8 weeks to assure the existing parasites go through their life cycle without a host fish and die off
A quarantine tank can be as simple as a starter kit from Walmart which most of the needed essentials.

 

[Jay Hemdal Verified Community Expert]

+1 on it being ich. You’ll most likely need to treat all of the fish with either hyposalinity or copper (in the absence of inverts of course).
Jay

 

[dabroli]

Well currently both tangs are in copper power, I won’t be able to treat the rest of the fish until Saturday when I set up a 60g hospital tank. No other fish in the display have show any symptoms luckily.

 

[dabroli]

The 60 gallon is emptied of all inhabitants which have been moved to a 120 I bought and set up over the weekend. Left a partial sand bed that’s been established for months, a couple established sponge filters, plus a tidal 110 full of matrix. In a few hours I’ll start the process of ripping all the live rock from my 125 so I can catch these fish . Still zero signs of ich on any other fish in this tank but it has to be in there right? Kills me to do this lol

 

[Sharkbait19]

Even if the fish aren’t visibly ill, the disease is still there and able to survive by feeding off the fish. Only way to kill it is to get everything out.

 

[dabroli]

Even if the fish aren’t visibly ill, the disease is still there and able to survive by feeding off the fish. Only way to kill it is to get everything out.

Luckily I had this tank available, they’re all in with copper at 2.5 so hopefully no losses. At least I have some crabs and snails in the main display lol. I think I’ll get them some pvc elbows or something

 

[Sharkbait19]

Luckily I had this tank available, they’re all in with copper at 2.5 so hopefully no losses. At least I have some crabs and snails in the main display lol. I think I’ll get them some pvc elbows or something

Non calcium based rock and pvc will definitely help. I would remove the sand though, as it absorbs copper (like rocks do), unless the sand is also not calcium based.

 

[dabroli]

Non calcium based rock and pvc will definitely help. I would remove the sand though, as it absorbs copper (like rocks do), unless the sand is also not calcium based.

I have a melanurus wrasse, I left some for him to sleep in but if it’s going to mess with my levels I can remove it. It’s maybe 10lbs of Fiji pink, but yeah unfortunately calcium based