Is this Ick or Velvet or something else?

[janimal]

Hello all! I have looked through everyone's photos but still find it hard to tell the difference between ick and velvet and other fish diseases. Can someone help identify if what this is and how to treat? I have a bottle of cupramine, ruby reef rally, ruby reef kick ick, and API's super ick cure... please help!
Thanks in advance!

 

[blaxsun]

If you can count the spots it's not velvet. Is the coral beauty in quarantine?

 

[LAReefer4Life]

Ich is salt like grains on the body vs. velvet appears like whitish dust on the body and kills much quicker than ich. Luckily both are treated with copper.

 

[janimal]

Yes the Coral Beauty is in quarantine with a carpenter wrasse and a royal gramma that we just got from the fish store 2 days ago. Looked fine in the store (but it was also a little hard to see since it was hiding in all the rocks). We have not dosed anything yet b/c we've been reading mixed reviews about cupramine and wrasses so we have just been keeping them in isolation from the main tank. Thinking of trying to get our hands on some copper power today. Had some Kordon's safe Copper-Aid lying around, but read reviews that it was really dilute, but since I hear time is of the essence, i was considering dosing the Copper-Aid now (chelated copper sulfate), until the stores open, and I can get some Copper Power (supposedly also chelated copper)...
Anyone have any experience mixing Copper-Aid and Copper Power?

 

[mike89t]

Hard to tell in the photos. But are you talking about the one spot on the side. Looks to large to be ich or velvet.

 

[janimal]

Hard to tell in the photos. But are you talking about the one spot on the side. Looks to large to be ich or velvet.

yes. The spot just appeared and trying to play it safe these fish were going to be in isolation for a month before going into the DT. the troublesome part is if we did have to treat ich, and one of the fish' being a wrasse what would be the best treatment. (slowly ramp up copper and then maintain at theraupitic levels)? And should we be treating the fish with a copper anyway as a quarantine before they go into the DT?

 

[mike89t]

Post your questions over in the fish disease forum. You will get better guidance over there.

Fish Disease Treatment and Diagnosis

A forum for discussing treatment and diagnosing saltwater reef fish.

www.reef2reef.com

 

[mike89t]

This is how I quarantine my fish

Current Quarantine Protocol

2024 Quarantine Procedures Jay Hemdal David Scarborough Protozoans (Cryptocaryon/ich, Amyloodinium/velvet) and Metazoan trematodes/flukes are by far the most common parasites found on newly acquired fish. A carefully managed, proactive quarantine process can effectively eliminate these...

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[ChaosAquaculture]

can you count the spots on them? Does it look like grains of salt or are they larger bumps? -kali