Is this normal clam behavior?

Won’t cause ammonia spike. Only ammonia is from the tissue breakdown. If you remove it befor it break down then no problem. It will smell really bad when it died so use glove.
 
Normal extension of mantles for my Crocea. All are Crocea except for one.
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Agree, it doesn’t look good, especially since it’s retracting the mantle quite a bit. Give it a couple days and see what happens. When the mantle retracts well into the shell and it doesn’t react to you touching it, then it’s time to pull it.
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More examples of healthy crocea mantles.
 
Agree, it doesn’t look good, especially since it’s retracting the mantle quite a bit. Give it a couple days and see what happens. When the mantle retracts well into the shell and it doesn’t react to you touching it, then it’s time to pull it.
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More examples of healthy crocea mantles.
That last one is perfect!
 
So if light is key. In a mixed LPs and softie tank that’s going to be no higher then 150 what clam would be best for that?

You can use a narrow spread high intensity light over the clam and leave the par lower for the rest of your tank. I have a lot of lps as well. For that reason I keep my clams in a sump refugium with high par. Allows me to view them from above which I prefer.

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So these pictures don’t show it well but it still has bright white new calcifying shell. Been in the tank since awuashella Dallas so about two weeks. If it doesn’t make then I’ll hold off and do actual research. But from what I’ve looked clams can do fine at about 150 par and for my mixed reef that should be what I’m pushing according to the bra investigates. Granted I don’t have a par meter yet. Like I said. Impulse against my better judgment. Hard not to when someone says it’s super easy about something you’ve always wanted. But I’ll monitor it and send updated photos. The guy seemed real healthy. Always reactive, positions himself where he wants to be and always open during the day. I will say this morning I noticed something similar to a feather duster growing what would seem like inside the shell and not the out side. Hard to tell.
150 PAR for a clam is a joke, sorry.They need 4-500 PAR + to be healthy and thrive.
 
That would be nice but I think the responsibility should be on the buyer to do the research. I mean really, 10 minutes of their time here could get all the answers they need about a creatures requirments.
As far as lighting, I'm far from an expert but even my derasa needed 300+ par to thrive. My maximas get around 400.
I agree with what you are saying you should always do your research but in this case the vendor was telling him not to worry it will be fine when he should of been asking him about his set up to know if he had adequate lighting to keep a clam
 
Pulled the clam today, came home to him closed and my skunk cleaner shrimp franticly reaching his hands down in him. That and he tumbled off the roc work completely. No longer hanging in there.
 
This just hasn't been true for me. Also Dr Mac from PEA who has set up clam farms states even small clams need nothing but light as food. Phyto may help but it isn't a requirement.

Not trying to start an argument but your statement is one reason I didn't try small clams years ago. I don't think people should be discouraged by statements like this. I have never dosed phyto and didn't want to start. My derasa was 2 inches when I got it and trippled in size in just over a year before it succumbed to a broken hinge and it received nothing but light from day 1.


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This large maxima was very small as well and has not received any feedings. The smaller one also no food supplements.
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Very nice clams you have there, i will always tell people to feed baby clams under 2 in. Something other then light, Derasa clams are much hardier then Maximas and croceas, the mortality rate for baby maximas especially is astronomical and i have never had someone tell me not to feed baby clams, feeding them has no chance of hurting them it could only be helpful
 
Check this out i can’t believe what i came across tonight in Live Aquria’s divers den, it finally paid off, I’ve been looking in the divers den where I don’t know how long, a while back they used to have some really good stuff pop off every night but then it just went down the toilet and it’s been pretty bad the past few years and I stopped looking, but then one night last fall just out of boredom I checked out the divers then again and saw it was starting to improve so again I’ve been looking every night and I would say the past three months has been pretty dismal, but tonight I struck gold I couldn’t believe what I saw. I put it in my cart and checked out immediately. I haven’t seen one of these in 20 years. Any of you guys that spend keeping clams for a long time should really appreciate this. A legit old school teardrop maxima, and I couldn’t believe the price I remember paying $180 for these back in the day
 

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Check this out i can’t believe what i came across tonight in Live Aquria’s divers den, it finally paid off, I’ve been looking in the divers den where I don’t know how long, a while back they used to have some really good stuff pop off every night but then it just went down the toilet and it’s been pretty bad the past few years and I stopped looking, but then one night last fall just out of boredom I checked out the divers then again and saw it was starting to improve so again I’ve been looking every night and I would say the past three months has been pretty dismal, but tonight I struck gold I couldn’t believe what I saw. I put it in my cart and checked out immediately. I haven’t seen one of these in 20 years. Any of you guys that spend keeping clams for a long time should really appreciate this. A legit old school teardrop maxima, and I couldn’t believe the price I remember paying $180 for these back in the day
It is not a T. maxima but T. noae. Classified as a new species for at least 5 years I think. It was actually named T. noae since 1798.
 
No sir it’s not a noae it’s a teardrop maxima for sure
This article was written almost 10 years ago. Somebody is fairly behind on their information. :)
 
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This article was written almost 10 years ago. Somebody is fairly behind on their information. :)
I know exactly what you’re talking about and I’m telling you it’s not it, I was buying them 10 years before this article came out straight from the man himself Barry Neigut when he was the top authority in the country on clams, he used to own clams direct and was alway’s all over the country as a keynote speaker at MACNA and ever other reefing show
 

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