it is Brooklynella ?

[dor_L]

Hello everyone, thank you all for your support and assistanceI have a 115 liter aquarium that started working on 2/23/24The values I checked a few minutes ago are
temp-26 c
Ammonia 0
Nitrite 0
pH 8.0
Salinity 1.023 S.G
Several fish from the clown family have died and currently there are invertebrates and one soft coral in the tank and another 3 Magnifica goby fish that are scratching a bit on the sand, what should I do to remove the parasite from the main tank?

thanks alot!

 

[vetteguy53081]

Can’t open video- you tube version works best
Some signs if brook;
Loss of volr
Loss of appetite
Heavy breathing
Fish lethargic
Wierd swim pattern
Heavy mucus mass on body

Treat with ruby rally pro

 

[Jay Hemdal Verified Community Expert]

Hello everyone, thank you all for your support and assistanceI have a 115 liter aquarium that started working on 2/23/24The values I checked a few minutes ago are
temp-26 c
Ammonia 0
Nitrite 0
pH 8.0
Salinity 1.023 S.G
Several fish from the clown family have died and currently there are invertebrates and one soft coral in the tank and another 3 Magnifica goby fish that are scratching a bit on the sand, what should I do to remove the parasite from the main tank?

thanks alot!

Welcome to Reef2Reef!

This fish appears to have a very severe case of marine ich. Did the fish that died also have pinhead sized white spots? When ich first starts, it looks like salt spots. Then, as the disease advances, the fish get cloudy skin, they stop eating and then die. Once fish have died from ich, it is difficult to treat the remaining fish fast enough to save them.

Your best bet in this case would be to use coppersafe or hyposalinity in a treatment tank (no invertebrates).

Jay

 

[dor_L]

Can’t open video- you tube version works best
Some signs if brook;
Loss of volr
Loss of appetite
Heavy breathing
Fish lethargic
Wierd swim pattern
Heavy mucus mass on body

Treat with ruby rally pro

this is the video

Welcome to Reef2Reef!

This fish appears to have a very severe case of marine ich. Did the fish that died also have pinhead sized white spots? When ich first starts, it looks like salt spots. Then, as the disease advances, the fish get cloudy skin, they stop eating and then die. Once fish have died from ich, it is difficult to treat the remaining fish fast enough to save them.

Your best bet in this case would be to use coppersafe or hyposalinity in a treatment tank (no invertebrates).

Jay

Thanks for your comment, don't you think it looks like clown disease? How long does it take for the parasite to disappear without fish in the aquarium? And how can it be that there are 3 Magnifica goby fish that I don't see a single spot on them and they behave normally? There were also several spots the size of a pin head in addition to the white membrane on the body of the fish

 

[vetteguy53081]

this is the video


Thanks for your comment, don't you think it looks like clown disease? How long does it take for the parasite to disappear without fish in the aquarium? And how can it be that there are 3 Magnifica goby fish that I don't see a single spot on them and they behave normally? There were also several spots the size of a pin head in addition to the white membrane on the body of the fish

This is bacterial. What is your ammonia-ph - nitrate level and how are you testing?
How do others in the tank look?
While this fish May respond to Ruby Rally pro, most effective will be treatment in a separate tank using seachem neoplex

 

[dor_L]

The fish died this morning after a long time carrying these symptoms, PH 8.0 Ammonia 0 red sea test kits There are 3 magnificent gobies that show no signs of distress, eat well and swim well.

 

[vetteguy53081]

Fire fish gobies do look good
Any scratching, darting across tank or other occasional unusual behavior?

 

[Jay Hemdal Verified Community Expert]

this is the video


Thanks for your comment, don't you think it looks like clown disease? How long does it take for the parasite to disappear without fish in the aquarium? And how can it be that there are 3 Magnifica goby fish that I don't see a single spot on them and they behave normally? There were also several spots the size of a pin head in addition to the white membrane on the body of the fish

The convict goby has discrete white spots, that looks like advanced ich to me. However, the time leading up to this video is important - did the fish show a few white spots, then more of them, then look the way it does now? That is how ich progresses.

You said the fire fish were scratching, they may not have developed a full infection yet.

Did the clownfish show discrete white spots or did they just develop white mucus on their skin, stopping eating and swim funny? The later is more a sign of brooklynella.

 

[dor_L]

Fire fish gobies do look good
Any scratching, darting across tank or other occasional unusual behavior?

They only scratch on the sand sometimes as far apart as once to three times a day

The convict goby has discrete white spots, that looks like advanced ich to me. However, the time leading up to this video is important - did the fish show a few white spots, then more of them, then look the way it does now? That is how ich progresses.

You said the fire fish were scratching, they may not have developed a full infection yet.

Did the clownfish show discrete white spots or did they just develop white mucus on their skin, stopping eating and swim funny? The later is more a sign of brooklynella.

In the beginning, the fish that died could develop, fading of the skin color, a white crust in an advanced state of the disease, but they fought the disease for a month, how is it that the remaining goby fish do not react to the disease as severely as others?

 

[vetteguy53081]

They only scratch on the sand sometimes as far apart as once to three times a day

In the beginning, the fish that died could develop, fading of the skin color, a white crust in an advanced state of the disease, but they fought the disease for a month, how is it that the remaining goby fish do not react to the disease as severely as others?

Either improvement in water quality especially after a water change

 

[dor_L]

How long does it take for the clownfish to disappear from the tank before I can put in a new clownfish?

 

[Jay Hemdal Verified Community Expert]

How long does it take for the clownfish to disappear from the tank before I can put in a new clownfish?

If the tank has NO fish in it, the general fallow period is 60 days. Any fish in the tank will disrupt the fallow period.

 

[dor_L]

If the tank has NO fish in it, the general fallow period is 60 days. Any fish in the tank will disrupt the fallow period.

Thanks for your response, and in the situation where there are fish and I still want to get rid of the parasite, the only way is with ruby rally pro?

 

[Jay Hemdal Verified Community Expert]

Thanks for your response, and in the situation where there are fish and I still want to get rid of the parasite, the only way is with ruby rally pro?

Sort of; that is actually not a sure fire treatment, just one that is easy and safe to use. The true treatment is formalin, but it is toxic to use in a home and difficult to source.

I would combine ruby reef with a fallow period and then quarantine any new clowns that you get.

 

[dor_L]

Sort of; that is actually not a sure fire treatment, just one that is easy and safe to use. The true treatment is formalin, but it is toxic to use in a home and difficult to source.

I would combine ruby reef with a fallow period and then quarantine any new clowns that you get.

I will try it, I really thank you and appreciate the help and your other friends who helped you

 

[dor_L]

Sort of; that is actually not a sure fire treatment, just one that is easy and safe to use. The true treatment is formalin, but it is toxic to use in a home and difficult to source.

I would combine ruby reef with a fallow period and then quarantine any new clowns that you get.

Hello again, I read your article about metronidazole and treatment of fish by introducing the drug into the mouth of the fish, and I saw another ad on the forum that states that metronidazole helps the clown disease in Brooklynellahttps://www.reef2reef.com/threads/metronidazole.298762/,What do you think about it?,Have you heard of successful cases?And how do you suggest dissolving metronidazole in the best way to inject into the food of the fish?Thank you very much for the responses

 

[Jay Hemdal Verified Community Expert]

Hello again, I read your article about metronidazole and treatment of fish by introducing the drug into the mouth of the fish, and I saw another ad on the forum that states that metronidazole helps the clown disease in Brooklynellahttps://www.reef2reef.com/threads/metronidazole.298762/,What do you think about it?,Have you heard of successful cases?And how do you suggest dissolving metronidazole in the best way to inject into the food of the fish?Thank you very much for the responses

I’ve not had much success treating brooklynella with metronidazole, either in the food or the water. Of the two, in water would be best. I use metronidazole in food to treat internal gut protozoans.

Some people have reported using chloroquine in the water against brooklynella, but I haven’t tried that myself, so IDK.

 

[dor_L]

I’ve not had much success treating brooklynella with metronidazole, either in the food or the water. Of the two, in water would be best. I use metronidazole in food to treat internal gut protozoans.

Some people have reported using chloroquine in the water against brooklynella, but I haven’t tried that myself, so IDK.

Hello again, I read your guides on how to mix the food with the medicine, the Excel files do not open for me, could you please tell me how much food weight according to the weight of medicine should be mixed? And is boiling water good for dissolving metrodinazole?Thank you for your support and assistance

 

[Jay Hemdal Verified Community Expert]

Hello again, I read your guides on how to mix the food with the medicine, the Excel files do not open for me, could you please tell me how much food weight according to the weight of medicine should be mixed? And is boiling water good for dissolving metrodinazole?Thank you for your support and assistance

Metronidazole is one of the easier medications to dose orally - the dose is 1% metro by weight in the food. I use gelatin as a binder, but most home aquarists use Seachem Focus. Don't boil it, just mix it into the food and binder. you can make up a week's worth of food at a time. Some people use a higher dose of metro (2%) but it is very bitter and many fish won't eat that.

 

[dor_L]

Metronidazole is one of the easier medications to dose orally - the dose is 1% metro by weight in the food. I use gelatin as a binder, but most home aquarists use Seachem Focus. Don't boil it, just mix it into the food and binder. you can make up a week's worth of food at a time. Some people use a higher dose of metro (2%) but it is very bitter and many fish won't eat that.

Thank you very much, so gelatin + metro and the food is frozen.And if I want to mix them with dry food, what dose do I need?