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I've caused the loss of possibly 2 fish (I one may be hiding) looks like im getting some algae and some zoos/ Palys are looking rough. I'm over my head and I feel terrible for my babies- I be grown terribly attached to all my tanks inhabitants. I live in tullahoma. If anyone lives close please come over and help me. I have 48 dollars I can pay you for coming out (I just bought skimmer and reef testing kits). I've done tons of research and it turns out I I thought I knew more than I did. I can pay more for a second check up visit after next weeks pay check.
 
Part of this hobby is dealing with losses sometimes. It's hard but everyone has their bad experiences. If you want, private message me and I will send you my phone number and I can try and help you out over the phone.

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My ammonia and nitrite were 0 Saturday (testing kit for home ordered) nitrate 20. Calcium 420. The rest aquatic critter said were good. .? Buy my salt water already made. Salinity 25. My hydrometer always measures 21 when its really 25is when the critter tests it. Gonna buy a refractomer. Use two powerheads and hob filter for movement. I know I really need better info than that. Sorry. Two candy cane coral from SaltCritters always looked sad. One was melting on bottom and one was
 
Showing skeleton and brown. They aren't perking up. My tank is 37 gallons with 30 pounds aquaculture live rock and 40pounds live sand. Tank was 3 months old before adding any livestock and its been an additional 6 months. I use 4 ho t5.2 10000 and 2 actinic. I do a 5-7 gallon waterchange split between Thursday and Saturday every week.no sump, refugium or skimmer. Skimmer should be here in 7 days. I feed cyclopeeze and alternate between 3 different peleted foods. I feed D's phytoplankton 4-5 times a week and target feed minced shrimp every 7 days to some corals.
 
Plate coral is turning brownish on its skeleton. It was growing little pretty tentacles and now they are starting to shrink. One candycane coral is doing great and so is hammer coral all mushrooms and both docs look ok. My zoos used to open really big and now 20%they or more wont open
 
My tank has had a slight barely noticeable stale smell to it for two days. A couple corals have red slime on them and there are patches of algae on front glass. Its a lot of different things going on started less than two weeks ago and getting worse faster. I know my tank is sick but don't know how to treat it and get it back in balance.
 
In your HOB filter, what do you use in it? just a pad filled with carbon, or anything else?
 
Ur food intake seems really high. I would do some water changes and get some fresh carbon. U said tank sat for 3 months before adding livestock? How did u cycle your tank. If there's not a food source your bacteria wont live and spread so I'm thinking u might be cycling still. What's your ammonia nitrites nitrates?
Jusr saw u said fish been in for 6 months. U shouldn't be cycling but I would test ti be sure. Also what's your phos? Corals don't do well in really high phos water.
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I use carbon only and change filter pad every Saturday. I may have phosphates. My testing package ordered comes in ~ 7 days. It also tests for phosphates. Thank you for helping me.
 
I do a 5-7 gallon waterchange split between Thursday and Saturday every week.no sump, refugium or skimmer. Skimmer should be here in 7 days. I feed cyclopeeze and alternate between 3 different peleted foods. I feed D's phytoplankton 4-5 times a week and target feed minced shrimp every 7 days to some corals.

Until your skimmer comes in, and breaks in (2 wks), I'd do a 10 gal water change every week. Cut down on your feedings and feed every 2-3 days, as opposed to every day. Also, cut down on the portion you are feeding. Phyto should not be fed every day either. Spot feed corals with it every 3-4 days, or when you feed minced shrimp, which, btw should be really finely chopped. Also, what top off water are you using? Sounds like you have a cyano problem and unless you cut down on feedings and examine your water source, it is likely to get worse.
 
All good advice, especially the water changes, but the water needs to be good RO/DI water with the proper amount of salt in it. Ask the fish store you get your water from to show you their water filtration system and verify the TDS. I've seen several that only run RO, no DI, and that's probably not good enough. You also need to make sure the salinity is correct. I'd gladly send you a calibrated solution or you can make your own, just Google Randy Holmes-Farley calibration and you should find the formula.

What is "aquacultured" LR? That kinda scares me as it could be terrestrial rock that has been submerged in salt water for awhile. If so it could contain all types of crap you don't want. Unless you spent quite a bit of money on your Phosphate test kit it isn't likely to show anything unless your phosphate is unacceptably high. I don't think phosphate is your problem based on your description. The aquarium should have a slightly salty smell, not smell foul. Something is contaminating your aquarium is my guess and until you isolate it all the preventative measures you take are only going to help for a day or so. You might be better off removing everything into a "sterile" tank until you identify the problem. If you do and things improve, you've got your answer. If you don't you're likely to lose the corals so you have little to lose. There should be plenty of bacteria on the coral skeletons to keep things stable without LR unless you've got a ton of fish. IF you do set up a "quarantine" tank, just provide some water flow, a bit of RO/DI rinsed carbon from a reputable source, and something to keep the temperature stable. If your temperatures are like they are here and your AC is running, you may not even need a heater.

Good luck and hang in there. We've all done things in the past that resulted in losses but we learned a lot in making mistakes. You will too.
 
Willow. I sent u a pm with my number. I have plenty of water and salt so we can do a water change tonight if need be.

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That's alt of sand. You didn't stir the sand during a water change did you?


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I did stir the sand around the time this all started for the first time. Pickupman66 came over andall params are now spot on. Thank you so much. Im going to follow all advise I recieved. Definitely going to feed the way it is suggested and found a dead hitchhiker scallop this afternoon before the first waterchange. This is an amazing forum. Im really relieved. I'm also going to add another powerhead for movement.
 
Your in good hands with lindsay. Sounds like a combo of things could have tainted your water. To much food, uneaten food, and if you have a dsb and stirred it up you can definately kill your tank. Gl hope all turns out well keep us informed and ask if you need more help.

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Willow, Glad I was able to come help. you are on the right track, just a few refinements. Les is more and Remember. Take it slow and let it grow.... (insert other cheezy cliche here). It was nice to meet you and if you are in the Winchester area, holler at me and you can come see my setup.

For the rest of the gang, Her #'s weren't that far off but salinity was low. we did about a 10 gallon water change in two stages to boost that up. Glad I had some test kits that weren't out of date.
 

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