Jabeo WP's via Apex ???'s

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I am looking to run my Jabeo pumps via the Apex VDM module and plan to run them around 20% consistently at lights out. I was told that Tunze pump shafts can be ruined if run at low power modes consistently.

Does anyone have any experience with running the Jabeo WP's consistently at low power? Was wondering if the pumps, shafts, motors life expectancy will be lowered if run at 50% or less consistently. I ask because the controller they come with does not allow you to run the pump below 50% consistently.
 
If you have the light sensor in the Jabeo controller that cuts your power in half during night mode. I run mine at 75% during the day when my lights go out my pumps slow down ...
 
I run my Jebao's at about 30% all the time and have not had a problem.
It depends on how you are decreasing the speed.

If you are decreasing the speed by lowering the voltage going into the controller that can damage the controller and/or the pump, but it you do it by lowing the voltage going out to the pump (which is the way the Apex would do it) it should be fine.
 
I plan to use the Reef Angel cable modded to run through the Apex VDM module to ramp up and down.

I believe when it's in night mode it runs at 50% power which is too much for my tank. 2 WP-40's at a constant 50% power equals substrate storm. Lol
 
Believe me. I know. I have a 40 and a 25 in my 55 and I can't go above 30%. I have taken it to 50% through careful placement and bouncing it off the glass I don't get a sand storm, but my corals are not happy with that much flow.o
 
If you are not running the WP40's at 100% during the day and the 50% night-time mode is too strong then wouldn't the obvious answer be to replace them with a couple of WP25's?

I replaced 2ea. Maxijet Mods and 4ea. 6100 Tunze's and a Tunze Wavebox on my 210 sps tank, with 2ea. WP 60's on an alternating wave timer. (5 to 15 min interval) I now have a 2.5 inch wave with a back and forth motion. They are placed on opposite ends of the tank so I get an alternating clockwise and counter-colckwise overall flow.
 
I believe that the Jebao with night sensor reduces your setting down to 50%, so if you have it on speed 2 it will reduce to speed 1 ???
I have two WP-40's for my 125g though only one installed, very impressed so far.

Paul ^fragman2^ nice to see you over here on R2R as well, need to have you up for a 'Old Salt' get together at my place or at Mr. Shiftons. Maybe carpool up with Martin.

Cheers, Todd
 
Not too much now that I can control them with my apex!!! Muwahahaha


Lovin the pumps even more now. I run one side at a 70-30% ramp while one side is at a 30-35% ramp and alternate every two hours. Makes for a great wave action

I also turn both pumps to 30-35% ramp during light off hours.

Storm mode kicks both pumps on 75-100% for 5 minutes to really make a chaotic flow pattern to kick up detritus before a cleaning.
 
I know that I have posted this before maybe in a different thread.

This is not my work someone else created it, I'm just re-posting it for others to use.


For Neptune Apex:


You will need:


A Reef Angel Jebao Cable. That's it. No need for the Jebao controller box anymore.
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or


0-10v analog input PWM module:
Search ebay for LED DIMMER PWM 10 A.12VDC-24 VDC; POT. or 0-10V control
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Cat5e ethernet cord


Wire nuts
or
Solder and heat shrink tubing


(optional) Solid core wires (or wires that can handle up to 6A) stevesleds.com has some.


Directions:


Unscrew the controller casing


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24- is blue
24+ is reddish brown
VA is green yellow and remains untouched


Cut the blue and red wire about halfway down, so you have enough wire connected to the controller still, and some down the cord to the pump. You can also desolder the wires from the 24+ and 24- points, but this is more difficult.


Connect solid core wire to extend the wire length with wire nuts, solder, or some way to connect the wires securely. This makes it easier to work with.


The 0-10v PWM module terminals look like this -+ +-


The first left side -(blue) and +(red) go to the pump wires


The next right side +(red) -(blue) are the ones connected to the controller internals 24+ and 24- points


For the wire to connect to the apex VDM ports, you can buy the Neptune cable ~$15, or do the following.


Cut one end off a Cat 5e ethernet cord.


Keep the following wires:
orange/white wire (positive) - orange wire (negative)
blue/white wire (positive) - green wire (negative)


When plugged into the first VDM port, blue/white wire, green wire is V1, oranges are V2
Second port, blue white green is V3, oranges V4


On the 0-10v module for V1, connect blue/white to + on 0-10v control input terminal , green to - control.


Put the controller back together in a project box, do a really good job with electrical tape taping the loose box together, or fit it all inside somehow and screw back together.


Create profiles to control the pump. The original controller mode are kept, so you can use the Apex to set intensity.


The easiest profiles are ramping profiles throughout the day, like this:


Outlet - Base_Var1 (for V1)


Set PM-Else
If Time 07:00 to 10:00 Then AM-Else
If Time 10:01 to 21:00 Then Day-Else
If Time 21:01 to 23:00 Then PM-Else
If FeedA 000 Then Feed


(feed would be a profile to allow the feed mode)


Profile name: AM-Else


Control type: Ramp


Ramp time (minutes): 1


Start Intensity: 60
End Intensity: 60


(this makes the pump run at 60% power, but if you use the ELSE mode on the controller, it simulates reef crest mode on a vortech, but at 60% overall power)


A midday profile can be made to use a higher intensity, and the PM one can use a lower one.


This barely touches on what can be programmed. If you set the pump on H1 (full power), you can create your own wave mode, like this (borrowed from Kenargo's Tunze profiles)


Profile name: Day Rt
Type: pump
Minimum Intensity: 30
Maximum Intensity: 100
Sync: Enabled
Divide-by 10: Enabled
Initial off time: 4
On time: 8
Off time: 0


Profile name: Day Lt
Type: pump
Minimum Intensity: 30
Maximum Intensity: 100
Sync: Enabled
Divide-by 10: Enabled
Initial off time: 0
On time: 8
Off time: 4


(This creates a huge syncronized wave between two pumps)


You can also use the Weather profiles to control the pump. The Vortech profiles do not work.
 

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